Sam Harris was a podcastbro before we even had podcasts.
He did, man. When he goes on about how iq is genetically determined in the context of a discussion about race science, that is exactly what he is implying.
Anyway, im legit interested but im gonna need a specific recommendation. Not goign to come back and rip on it, just curious.
I stopped listening to Rogan awhile ago, so only seen clips of his CV talk. But remember March 10 episode with an infectious disease Dr that offered great information when US government was really fucking up.
Sam Harris has also said that Murray is one of the most unfairly maligned intellectuals out there and that Harris agrees with everything in the bell curve. I think it’s mostly from having a 90s understanding of genetics and then applying that to cherry picked data.
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Except of course he didn’t actually say the second part. At all.
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Which is what makes his pivot to anti mask and misinformation so frustrating.
He basically said Murray was being unfairly treated by the world when it’s just facts bro.
Tucker wasn’t far right when Jon got him canceled though. Lou Dobbs was a normal person on CNN at the time as well. We’re judging mid 2000s people from what the world is like in 2020.
He did say that yes and he was wrong. He absolutely didn’t say he agreed with everything in Murray’s work.
Lou Dobbs was already openly racist at that time. It might have taken until 2009 to get him fired but it was obvious that Dobbs wasn’t “normal”.
People like Dobbs, Tucker and Beck were obviously bad people 10-15 years ago, but they’re way worse today.
Ha, Lou Dobbs is American normal.
The issue with Sam is his complete refusal to own up to the mistakes he’s made. It’s always that somebody misunderstood or misinterpreted him. It’s never that he said or did something stupid. He got embarrassed by Chomsky and actually thought that releasing their email discourse would make him look better for fuck’s sake.
He allowed a race scientist to share his views without resistance on his podcast. Fuck Sam. Last time I checked, his own subreddit was shitting on him over his tiff with Ezra Klein.
These “public intellectuals” like Harris and Peterson are really just total blowhards. Actual intellectuals are doing shit that helps people rather than developing a cult of personality that they can use to sell apps and books.
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He does resist admitting error too much. He is too stubborn . The Murray thing was a mistake.
My very simple point is that one bad episode doesn’t define an entire persons life and mean they are to be written off forever.
People have to be able to be wrong, even very wrong, sometimes. It’s the only possible way for healthy discourse to occur.
This severe purity based cancel culture leaves no room for people to grow, change their mind, or even be wrong about one thing but right about another.
P.S. It’s a mortal lock someone will reply to this claiming I’m saying we should ignore racism if the person is otherwise ok. I wish I could somehow post this in secret and only have it revealed after someone makes this bad faith claim.
Except it’s not.
He’s been able to wiggle away from being Islamophobic because they’re no longer committing the major terror attacks in the west. He’s able to shake off being pro-Israel because people are so dead set on attacking Trump that Israel barely registers. People are way too quick to forget some deplorable views he holds.
This isn’t the time for healthy discourse.
I’ll own up to being a Sam Harris reader way back in the 90’s when the New Atheists was a thing and I was young and dumb enough to be into his shtick. He’s probably one of the smartest of the Intellectual Dark Web coalition of grown-ass men who whine about being bullied by college students. Thanks for reminding me about that time Noam Chomsky casually bodyslammed him.
The podcast just varies depending on who he has on. He doesn’t have a very good speaking voice (it’s a bit soporific) but he’s a pretty good interviewer. I’m not a regular listener but have listened to a few of them. The one with Michael Pollan about psychedelic drugs and their promise as a mental health treatment is good if that’s a subject which interests you. “Free Will” is a short book that is a decent primer on the subject if you’re new to it, although adherents of compatibilism wouldn’t think so (both Harris and I share the opinion that compatibilism is just changing the subject).
Well in that clip the guy says masks are largely nonsense. This was back when the CDC position was masks won’t help. Wonder if Rogan is stuck on that and can’t update his view. Pretty sure this same guy would tell him to wear his fucking mask now.
Yup. Listened to Harris regularly for a while as well.