Was anyone saying that he was obviously half-joking at the time?
I finally heard the clip two days ago and kind of felt stupid for piling on Rogan. He was obviously joking.
I still think he has a responsibility to make that clear though because of his large audience. No room for ambiguity.
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Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit
Jesus Christ. That clip doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Joe is a malleable simpleton. Go back and listen to the most recent Elon Musk episode. He’s been anti mask for a while. I’m not going to dig through every idiotic thing he’s said about the pandemic the past month, but there’s plenty.
Jesus dude you’re like the guy who posts a transcript of a comic’s act and is all omg look at this horrible person, my god he wants to put hipsters in camps.
All Comics Are Bastards
People should watch for themselves. It’s two comics doing rough proto-bits and breaking each others balls. If you want to make A Thing about it what the fuck are we even doing here?
He’s not “just a comedian.” He’s one of the most influential voices in the US. It’s not one podcast excerpt. It’s months of misinformation and mask shaming. Give me a fucking break.
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I never said he was just a comedian. But the dynamic of that clip is obviously that of two comedians throwing half baked bits at each other. I mean just watch it, it’s so obvious.
There’s nothing obvious about it being a joke. He’s been anti mask for months. I listen occasionally when he has an interesting guest on. The Elon Musk episode is especially egregious with the disinformation both of them spread.
People that listen to every single episode and are big enough fans to comment in the JRE subreddit are calling it out and saying the joking excuse is complete bullshit. I’ll take my limited exposure to him over the last few months and their perspective and call it bullshit.
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Right I mean why use your own eyes and ears to see if Rogan is joking when you can read a reddit comment.
Probably works for someone spreading disinformation about a public health issue that is reliant on people trusting scientists and experts over their feelings.
The reason this country is so incredibly fucked has a lot to do with people trusting knuckle draggers like Rogan re: masks over a wimpy nerd scientist.
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FWIW, discouraging your millions of listeners from wearing a mask is more likely to kill my parents than whatever other idiotic shit he said.
JFC. I don’t understand the fucking resistance to masks in this shit hole country. How many lives would have been saved if we all agreed to wear masks months ago? Instead it has to be a divisive issue like everything else in this country so a million think pieces can be written by interns at Buzzfeed to drive clicks for ads.
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Name 5 media figures more influential than Rogan right now.
I don’t give a flying fuck about his opinions on things outside of mma and hallucinogens. Except when those things can kill my parents.
This is the last thing I’m going to say on this. I feel gaslit and crazy with the precautions I’m taking compared to everyone else in my state.
When you are one of the most influential people in the country, you have a certain amount of responsibility. Discouraging the use of masks is one of the worst things he could have done at this moment, and has undoubtedly led to thousands of infections and deaths.
He’s doing the standard move of claiming he was joking because of the backlash he received. If you’re too dense to see that, I don’t know what to tell you. He just signed a 9 figure deal with Spotify. I’m sure his backtrack is unrelated.
I mean I’m sure that it helps that anyone who is actually watching the clip can see he is, in fact, joking around with his friend and very obviously not giving health advice to anyone.
I don’t think Harris is dumb at all and the idea that he’s dumber than Peterson is hilarious, although “dumb” as a word does too much work in trying to describe all the various ways people can be perceptive in some areas and incompetent in others.
I think the whole project of trying to decide if people are good or bad is a little baby brained, some of what Harris writes is good and some of it is dogshit. I think he generally writes clearly, which is nice; even when I think he’s wrong I’m generally clear on what he’s trying to say (cf. Peterson).
The podcast on the protests, which I read a transcript of after a libertarian-adjacent friend of mine linked it, was majority in the dogshit column but I still thought it had some good observations, like:
I think social media is a huge part of the problem. I’ve been saying for a few years now that, with social media, we’ve all been enrolled in a psychological experiment for which no one gave consent, and it’s not at all clear how it will turn out. And it’s still not clear how it will turn out, but it’s not looking good. It’s fairly disorienting out there. All information is becoming weaponized. All communication is becoming performative. And on the most important topics, it now seems to be fury and sanctimony and bad faith almost all the time.
I think this is all true and I think “all communication is becoming performative” is a good way to put it.
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Sam’s voice puts me to sleep though. It’s been great for treating my insomnia.
Joe’s a meathead. There are podcasts involving comics that are way funnier to listen to.
Communication has always been performative. How we talk and what we talk about shapes our identities. Social media makes our communication more self-consciously performative.
Information has always been weaponized. Gossip was a form of social control in the village. Now, we have a global village and the gossip spreads worldwide, only this time we have a greater ability to fact-check the gossip.
Maybe social media as modern gossip would be a good premise for a book.
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