I’m not pro doxing. I don’t think we should give out addresses. Even if we could guarantee 100% accuracy.
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Ditto.
Why not? We can just say we didn’t do it.
I do agree we shouldn’t post addresses unless they’re confirmed. But there were protests outside the house of the Minnesota cop. Would it be OK to post that address if someone wanted to join the protest?
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Because I’m worried about collateral damage. What if they have young kids at their house and something goes wrong during an altercation?
I still haven’t seen someone in the pro doxing crowd specify how much callateral damage they are willing to accept.
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Says who?
Yeah. I would agree. It bugs me a lot that my sister feels a need to smear people on the internet when she thinks she’s been ripped off by a business. There are remedies to seek if you think you’ve been wronged that do not involve giving people “bad reviews”. It can backfire. It can be libel. At best its vindictive. So put me down as anti-doxing…
Must be nice to get to go about terrorizing the community every day and then go home and get a nice peaceful sleep because the people you are terrorizing insist on some kind of rules that don’t apply to you.
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It’s not like I’m even advocating for this shit it’s just that I can’t be bothered to give two fucks for these assholes.
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It’s ok to post the name but not the address sounds so stupid it really seems like backtracking and losing conviction in your original point. - @j8i3h289dn3x7
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If you saw someone push down an old man and crack open their skull, would you call the police?
If the police kill the wrong person and their dog how culpable are you?
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That is something I’ve thought about a lot. Collateral damage all over the place.
It’s why I don’t think high speed chases should be legal on the cops end.
Edit: High speed chases should be banned or illegal.
But that’s why I’m in favor of demilitarizing the police.
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The police are at war with the American citizens. You’re worried about enemy combatants being “harassed”?
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Standard trolley problem stuff where jman views posting the address as pulling the lever.
Far fewer cases than black folks ending up dead, I’m willing to wager.
I would prefer it if the person there who filmed the cop assaulting the old man were capable of running an independent investigation to find the name of the cop and then report them to some incorruptible and impartial person who could arrange for a fair defense and judgement by an impartial jury and have all of that done without the cop’s identity becoming public at least until they are proven guilty. But I don’t get what I want. In this real world that cop gets doxxed or gets away with it.
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How did Derek Chauvin’s name become public?
I think that there is no moral culpability if someone shares the cop’s address and another person uses that information to bomb the cop’s house, killing the cop and his family, including young children. Is the bomber to blame? Sure. Should the person who shared the information be required to anticipate the bombing? No. Do I want the cop to be afraid that this might happen? Yes. Am I going to participate in a bombing? Probably not.
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I have a lot of respect for you and I promise I’m arguing in good faith.
Well, not even trying to argue as much as understand the pro doxers point of view.
One thing we are in agreement on is wanting this cop to pay for what he did. I wouldn’t even be upset if it was vigilante justice.
My complaint about doxing isnt specific to this one case, it’s overall. And my mind might change in the future.
I also haven’t been on the front line like you.
I realize that maybe I don’t appreciate the urgency of the moment. Maybe the risk of some collateral damage is necessary right now.
I’m going to think about it some more.
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