On the morality of doxxing shitty cops using violence against innocent civilians

Wat? If I post your name here are you not doxxed? It only counts if I post your address?

Who claimed that?

OK but publicizing an officers name and what he did trying to get him disciplined or charged is very different from posting his address. Posting his home address is a tacit encouragement of taking some action towards the person at that address. And that’s true even if it’s readily available by a google search. It’s encouraging some sort of personal action.

I agree with this, but others think it’s semantiksing to say it’s OK to give someone’s name only, since anyone with the newly released name can simply Google the address.

Are you paying attention?

In light of this post:

explain this post:

Let’s burn down Officer Racist’s house.

Officer Racist’s home address is 1488 Whiteville Way.

This guy is Officer Racist, here’s what he’s done, let’s publicize what he did and try to influence public officials and public opinion to get some justice.

Two of these three things said on the internet are wrong imo.

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…and one won’t have any effect whatsoever in current day USA#1, unfortunately.

Just not true. The guys who lynched Arbery are in prison facing murder charges. Public outrage caused that. The Minneapolis cops are facing murder charges. Those atlanta cops who tazed those people in that car are facing charges.

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And still they’re pushing 75 year olds over in the street and potentially killing them.

If that guy dies I think the cop will face manslaughter charges.

57 cops have resigned in protest at their (the two cops) treatment because, guess what?

Yes! They “Ver only following ze orders”.

https://twitter.com/ali_ingnews/status/1268979789488173058?s=21

57 cops resigned? Sounds like pretty good results so far!

And anyway the police don’t decide if the officers get prosecuted.

The point is that most street policemen are unemployable in any other job for similar wages (nightclub bouncers and security guards don’t earn as much), so when any are sacked or jailed it’s easy to replace them with similar meat heads happy to crunch a few heads in for the lolz.

Hence nothing substantial will change.

Only ~643 to go.

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These guys weren’t even following orders! Or at least, I’d like to see them name the officer who issued the order to shove that old dude.

Disciplining and/or prosecuting cops who use excessive force is an important way to reform police departments. It might not a sufficient step but it’s certainly a necessary one.

We don’t know what their orders were but they didn’t have to be as explicit as “Shove any old person over” to be correctly carried out.

You are correct. That is why the “Abolish the Police” (slogan needs some more work) movement encompasses police hiring, training, etc.

In the short term, I am happy that some police are being fired or suspended for violent acts (and yes it is almost entirely due to being captured on video). If other cops want to resign in protest, that’s icing on the cake.

You are also correct - it’s obviously good to sack or convict bad cops - but take it from a Londoner who’s seen his fair share of cops being sacked for all sorts of things, that it won’t make as much difference to the standard of policing as you might think.

It’s similar to how public hangings had no deterrent effect on the crime rate in Victorian London, and in fact were even a favourite haunt of pickpockets to operate in at a time when it was punishable with the death penalty.

Some people are literally so stupid they don’t consider the consequences of their actions (and many of those are in police forces throughout the world).

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@BestOf

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