You can focus on the nice things the terrible judge said, or the fact that he was given the longest sentence of Jan 6 defendants.
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She also cited the comically low prosecutorial sentence recommendations for others involved in the Jan 6 Capitol Riot, something this forum has complained about since the first trial.
Of course, I am not supporting this judge or her reasoning, but I think prosecutors share some of the blame.
It’s just a typical bullshit @Riverman post. The guy got 7 years, the most of any Jan. 6 defendant thus far.
Dude 7 years for what he did is a complete joke. We lock people up for longer than that in this country for robbing a 7-11.
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That’s a whole nother issue, and this is a federal sentence, not some FL or AZ mandatory minimum (though federal mandatory minimums are just as bad). I think we way over sentence in the US, especially states. I also think many Jan 6 defendants have gotten off too light. 7 years seems appropriate for this guy.
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lol his own son turned him in
I support sentencing reform in the USA, but I sure as fuck am not going to start with the J6 terrorists.
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Even with a Trumpy judge, this sounds like fucking around and finding out.
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Todays daily feed about him. Very interesting story of a basically normal dude going full in the tank for trump. His son is a progressive.
The entire system is doing an excellent job of setting a precedent as a deterrent and I think the targeted group clearly understands the precedent. If leftists or progressives ever pull a similar stunt against a fascist/conservative government, it’ll be the max sentence every time.
Message heard, loud and clear.
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The fact that 7 years is the longest sentence a J6 defendant has gotten is a huge fucking problem.
Is it? I don’t know. I think that’s plenty as a deterrent. Like you have to be pretty committed to the cause to be like “7 years, who cares”. Criminology studies are pretty clear that deterrence stems mostly not from how severe the punishment is, but the likelihood of being caught and punished. More concerned about maximum people getting time in the slammer than length of sentence.
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Again, I am willing to have a principled discussion about reducing sentencing in America, but I am not starting with these guys. As long as Black guys with weed are catching outlandish sentences, so should these people. In many if not most cultures, the penalty for a failed insurrection is summary execution. Anything less than that is mercy.
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I served on a jury in 2009 for a shoplifting case. Kid was 17, black, not looking remorseful, but having me on the jury was potentially bad for them. They were trying him for stealing a wallet and for being an accessory to his buddy stealing a bluetooth ear piece. Only had to be found guilty on one or the other charge and both sides thought the accessory charge was a slam dunk and the theft charge was tenuous. When we finally got to deliberate I spoke up right away that I thought the accessory charge was complete bullshit and we should find him not guilty for that and focus on the theft charge. One older woman argued that he was absolutely guilty of being an accessory. No compelling case, she just knew. I was pretty annoyed, but I told her a little fable about her and me at Bartell’s Drug and she shows me something she thinks is super cool and I steal it. Are you guilty? She says no. Then I circle back to her thinking the kid is guilty. There’s no audio, no witness to say he told the kid to steal it, and all of the cameras are pointed at cash registers, so there’s no fucking video either. I tell her I believe he did exactly what they charged him with, but there’s no proof and she relents. Now we move on to the theft charge and I can’t find a way to get to not guilty. Sorry dude, I tried. The cop that arrested him took the stand and the prosecutor asked him if he knew the defendant and the cop immediately said something like “God yes” complete with an eye roll and possibly a raspberry. It happpened so fast that even though the defense objected pretty quickly it was already too late. The judge was pissed and warned the cop and anybody else who was going to take the stand to not do that, probably told us to disregard. A couple of loss prevention officers took the stand to tell us that the store doesn’t have a single camera pointed at the merchandise and they’re all pointed at the registers. Also told us the kid head butted the male LPO, but there was no assault charge for some reason. I wound up buying weed from the female LPO almost exactly a year later.
The kid’s back in jail now after having made the big time with an appearance on Washington’s Most Wanted. They caught him and were walking him to booking when he took off running. He was still cuffed and tried to climb a steel fence with pointy tops to escape. The pointy tops detained him until police arrived on the scene. He’s like a criminal version of Beaver Cleaver. HTF did that name get past the sensors?
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+1 to what Wookie said. Also let’s keep in mind that most of these people will be pardoned if a Republican wins.
How long would you like to see them given?