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But can overkill be interpreted as a form of futureproofing? Like, is today’s overkill tomorrow’s adequacy? Or does it not work like that? I really don’t know.

To a great extent yes it can - but you still need to do regular maintenance tasks like get rid of all the shit that runs at start up, disabling services you don’t need etc to continue to get the best out of it, maybe once every few months.

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Like jm said, it’s a production spec box - at the financial institution I worked at we had a production server hosting SQL Server with transactional replication and jobs running most of the day loading tons of data with the same spec as your proposed box lol.

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To a degree yea kinda.

But computers are weird. I’ve been out of school for a few years, so more computer sciency people are probably gonna see me butcher this explanation - but take cpu for instance. You dont get more performance necessarily by just throwing more cores at an application. It’s up to the application to utilize those cores, typically through multithreading (but even that is a gross oversimplification - there’s stuff like hyperthreading etc that I’m not well versed on). Afaik most games and apps run on a single thread. So CPU is very very unlikely to ever be a performance bottleneck for you unless your box is doing a lot of other cpu intensive stuff.

We had a lab with 16 and 32 core machines in my last job and I got to play with them. You’d be amazed at what you have to throw at a machine like that to get it to 90+% cpu utilization.

I dont really see a future where gaming ever requires a processor like that. But maybe my imagination is limited. I would bet the processor is a big chunk of that box’s cost, too.

If gaming is your thing I would instead rather direct that cost into buying a machine with a motherboard that has 2 gfx card slots and buying two top of the line cards. THAT will go a lot farther for your buck, with games anyway.

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I may end up doing this, though I’ve heard it can get tricky if you don’t know what you’re doing (which I very much don’t). The processor is about €600 over and above an 8-core Ryzen 3800XT (4.7GHz) so not the biggest chunk but considerable for sure.

Yea, it is tricky, and I think most people who go for that kind of setup end up not even utilizing both cards.

I game + stream from the same machine which is about the most intense thing you can put a personal use computer through and I have a 10th gen intel chip, 16gb memory, and an nvidia geforce 1660 and im happy as a clam. Just $900.

But but but the game settings… they don’t say ā€˜Ultra’…

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All i’m really trying to say I guess that as far as most bang for your buck goes and future proofing, I’d prioritize graphics card first, cpu last. Memory is getting cheaper by the day - no reason to have more than you need. But 32gb is not egregious anyway.

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Isn’t it way cheaper to buy a mediocre machine every two years than a beast every five?

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he did refer to him doing the peterson’s daughter podcast before. i chose not to look it up.

but yes, he did talk a lot about his walkabouts. i came away thinking that if matthew wasn’t in hollywood, he probably would have been the maga viking at some point in time.

RAM is cheap. You can get 32 GB for less than 150 €.

real gamers get NVME.

well, probably not gamers, but db nerds like me.

This is my strat - worked out for me so far. I go through a $1000 machine about every ~3 years. I could extend that lifespan by simply upgrading the graphics card probably, but I always talk myself into a new purchase.

Yea I didnt realize how cheap it had gotten. All the more reason why you dont have to have more than you need - it’s getting cheaper every day

I have no idea how these components add up to 4700 €. That sounds overpriced. The first site I checked had the cpu+gpu for 2500€. The rest of the components shouldn’t add up to 2200€.

You should also check cpubenchmark.net and vgabenchmark.net for options that get you more bang for your buck.

It’s a custom build, not a pre-made machine, so it includes labour and shipping from the UK.

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It seems insane to spend that much and not get a nvme ssd instead of SATA. Honestly I can’t imagine getting a SATA ssd at ANY price point today

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I’m sure I’d agree if I had a clue what that meant.