‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - Gun Violence in America

You can go eat a bag of twenty dicks, troll. No one made the claim police have the highest mortality rate.

And btw FU Johnny for defending this guy.

They do die though.

And I’m not wrong that where more guns exist the more aggressive police are. I even listed an article earlier itt that should that correlation is strong in this country.

Omg I get called a libertarian and this racist fuck gets left alone?

I’m sorry but rural areas have waaaaay more guns per capita than city areas. Areas with more minorities are where you see more aggressive police. And that’s not a pro police argument ldo.

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Dude, that is some of the derpiest ass posting I have seen. I hope you mean by capita.

States with the most guns per capita: Wyoming and New Hampshire. Illinois is 40th. There are 20 times as many guns per capita in Wyoming as in Illinois.

That doesn’t matter though. The volume of guns in gang related areas of Chicago are denser than those of friendly farmers and their shotguns.

That’s seriously not close to true dude. The crime rate is higher for sure, but to a significant extent that’s because the cops aren’t even bothering to solve murders in black areas of Chicago… and are constantly destabilizing the drug trade by busting people involved in the trade.

Again police mortality is not higher in big city PD’s like Chicago/STL/Baltimore with heavy crime than it is in rural areas.

Two police officers were killed in Chicago in 2018. One was killed by a clearly suicidal suspect who had just shot his fiance to death and exchanged fire with the police in a hospital, and the other was in plainclothes when he attempted to engage an armed suspect who did not know he was a cop when he shot him. The other two line of duty deaths died when they were both hit by a train on the same day (I assume by the same train lol). That’s two out of 11k+ officers in the Chicago police department. That’s in line with the 24.1 murders per 100k that the random citizens of Chicago live with every day.

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Again you’re not arguing about my statement that where gun ownership (legal or not [and illegal guns exist simply out of fact that guns are legal here]) is higher than areas with lower amounts of guns police are more aggressive. Chicago has a weekend where 60+ people were shot this year.

And I’m going to guess Chicago police shooting citizens is higher than most other metropolitan areas.

This is a very bad post. A very very bad post. The Chicago PD being terrible is why there are more police involved shootings as well as why the murder rate is so high in Chicago. Full stop. This is also true of the other super high murder rate cities. It has nothing at all to do with the rate of gun ownership.

When the police are extremely racist and treat the black/latino areas of town like a source of revenue instead of an area needing protection they lose the ability to enforce the law on violent crime. This results in high murder rates. The officer involved shootings are part of what erode the trust. The reason Chicago has such a huge problem is that the Chicago PD are trash at the job of actually protecting the poorer parts of town.

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Should have a gun rights thread…

No, your posts are terrible. Like holy shit dude you are not smart enough to put 2p2 together after you post this?

This is also true of the other super high murder rate cities. It has nothing at all to do with the rate of gun ownership.

I tend to give you credit. But HELLO a lot of murders are committed with guns.

Why the fuck do you think the police are so bad in higher murder areas (the correlation I’ve already made)? It’s because they fear getting shot. These areas have higher % of black cops and latino cops than my neck of the woods.

Check Chicago’s police demographics. The “police are racist” therefore brutality doesn’t fly. Have you even bothered stop and thinking why Chicago police don’t solve crime at a higher rate? They don’t want to fucking go into areas because even little kids are getting shot and killed. Gang members who kill and get killed are little teenagers. Look up Antonio “Fathead” Davis if you like, or Lil Jojo.

Also, I certainly know you don’t understand Chicago gangs all too well. There’s gangs of every color there. Simon City Royals being the highest profile white gang I know of. There’s a video of TJ from Simon City Royals shooting someone in their legs on youtube.

Even fucking police departments are bitching about gun rights.

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THIS… is a well thought out post with some very good points. It deserves more than a snap answer. I’m at work. I do have some things to say and don’t want to dismiss any of the good points you bring up. I’m not ignoring this just give me some time to respond

Imagine if the left did have more guns and as many militias as the right has. It would be problem solved gop gun restrictions incoming.

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Yeah. My one time playing paint ball with teams in the woods taught me that training helps a lot.

The hick way is bb gun wars. Paint balls hurt to though.

Speaking as someone who has had the misfortune of squaring off in paintball against people who have actually been infantry… yeah it’s short and it’s unpleasant. You very definitely do not win or ever feel even a little bit like you’re winning or even holding your own.

If those were real bullets I’d be straight up running away… and probably getting shot in the back.

We did this for my friend’s bachelor party. He had gone through some special forces training. It was literally him running through the place like Rambo capping fools at will. His use of cover and knowing angles and shit was awesome af.

Team Pablo

The Chicago, STL and Baltimore PDs are terrible because they hired a random, bad batch of officers, I guess. lol

A stop on my walk to school to pick up and meet some friends in middle school involved steel dart fights. Yup. I hid like a coward but they happened.