Sounds like current claim is there were IEDs but driver planted them all.
The bollard situation makes no sense, everyone is blaming the broken bollards but the old bollards, even when working properly, only blocked the street and didnât block the sidewalks, so the result would have been the same, dude still could have gone around the bollards the same way he went around the police cars that were in place.
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Ever notice how the million dollar blinged out armored tactical GrundleCat vehicles always show up AFTER the bad guys shoot up a school or mow down a crow of folks?
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Cops are like the tsa. 98% useless cosplay theatre.
Itâs a bit galling to hear this kind of pearl-clutching after the forum collectively swooned over Mangione. I mean, itâs definitely irresponsible to give the murderer attention, but at least theyâre treating the murders as bad things to have done!
terrible analogy
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Fair. One of them was a depressed whack job loser who turned to murder to provide meaning to his otherwise empty life, and the other one was the bad kind of murderer.
Yet you found a way to make it worse.
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Would you like me to swoon more over this guy?
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mangione was polling with a net 9% favorability rating among people under 30 per yougov and only -23% over all groups, tell me youâre out of touch without telling me youâre out of touch
Iâll settle for less sanctimony about the coverage of murderers you donât admire.
Wait, are you citing a poll that finds people have a -23% favorable view of Mangione as evidence that itâs out of touch to have an unfavorable view of him?
if we do some big boy math youâll find that a net minus 23 is nearly 40%. Do you think thatâs a small amount of people? Iâll leave your big super leet coder brain to figure this out. Your original post lamented people here âswooningâ over him as if it was some sort of anomaly - it isnât, only to certain types of overpaid bootlickers with a huge investment into the system as it currently stands - which to be clear makes total sense, but letâs please not pretend itâs anything other than that or pretend to be mystified about it.
Youâre misunderstanding how favorability ratings are calculated with your âbig boyâ math. People who donât have an opinion arenât counted, so itâs actually only 5% of people swooning over him (âvery favorableâ) and another 15% somewhat favorable. Twice as many people donât know who he is or donât care and about the same number think he sucks.
But even that is missing the point. Iâm not arguing that a sick obsession with violence is a fringe position. History tells us that itâs not, especially among young men and middle-aged men going through midlife crises. Iâm saying that if you want to openly admire shooting someone in the back in cold blood because you think it advances your political aims, you lose standing to criticize editorial decisions of murders on the grounds that they might encourage future murderers.
We live in a nation founded on slavery and violence, by the way. People (not just men) âcelebrateâ this violence because they feel helpless and without agency or power to do anything about it, and this very visibly shook to the core the very people that are working hard to ensure that the system does not change. To explain my actual position clearly, Iâm glad this happened because it exposed a deep unhappiness with the way things are and a bipartisan desire to change it. As we head into what it is almost certainly going to be a multi decade long episode of fascism and authoritarianism, even the most casual readings of âsocialistâ writings and actual history would suggest weâre headed towards much more violence unless things change from the top down. They arenât likely to, but this is what people hope, and pointing out what is happening is hardly âswooning,â but like I said, i completely understand why people like you get their depends in a twist about it. I donât think I ever commented about any editorializing of what has happened, other than to laugh at it, because it is indeed very funny.
Luigi still has thousands of murders to go before he kills as many people as Brian Thompson did
âIâm not a depressed loser obsessed with violence, Iâm just unhappy with the current situation, I feel helpless to effect constructive change, and I lovingly fantasize that violent acts will make the people I resent for their happiness and success take me into account! Iâm actually laughing.â
This is an impressively tone deaf post.
It constantly amazes me someone can post on a site like this for years and still only have the most surface level understanding of how the system works. You have to be willfully not using new data to change your priors. Criticizing the people feeling kinship with Mangione instead of the massive institution that kills millions to make the 1% richer is simply being a stooge for that system. This is understandable for the average citizen who is not educated on how the system works. Itâs inexcusable for someone who posts on a site like this for years.
It means you are the problem.
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Nothing pathetic about that!
70% of Americans say that the healthcare system is partly to blame for the death of Brian Thompson and it wasnât all on Luigi Mangione. Itâs worth paying attention to those people.
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