Movies (and occasionally face slaps) (Part 1)

I love this movie, almost as much as I love For Love of the Game, even though I know both are quite bad. Can’t remember if Draft Day episode was any good, but I’m still pissed off that For Love of the Game got relegated to that dumbass Luminary series, rather than being generally available.

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I saw the new Indiana Jones today too and thought the de-aging tech actually looked pretty good and was probably among the highlights, which isn’t saying much. It was about an hour too long, and I couldn’t reconcile his age with being an action star (he’s rock climbing and hanging by his literal fingertips at one point ffs, not to mention the fighting and gunplay).

It was much better than the fourth movie but doesn’t come close to Raiders or the Last Crusade. Maybe in the ballpark of ToD. It was fine.

How’d that work out last time?

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Primal Fear Rewatchables episode was excellent, and I’m excited that this is theme month. 6 (I think?) episodes featuring (presumably significant) courtroom scenes.

Here’s what I’m predicting/hoping for, in no particular order:

First, not eligible:

  • The Verdict. Fantastic movie, already covered with a great episode.

  • A Few Good Men. They won’t do this one because it was their very first episode. But that was a really weak episode, because they hadn’t nailed down the format. Easily due for a followup.

  • Kramer vs. Kramer. Another fantastic movie they’ve already covered.

  • 12 Angry Men. I’d love a rewatchable, probably with someone more serious than Bill, but I think this is technically not eligible because there’s no actual courtroom scene.

Now my predictions/hopes:

  • Presumed Innocent, even though I haven’t seen it. This would push me to mark it off the list, and potentially even pay $2.99 to Amazon to rent it. (I absolutely cannot stomach paying to rent movies given how many streaming services we have.) I feel like they’ve been mentioning this one a lot.

  • My Cousin Vinny. I was under the impression they had done this one already, but a quick google suggests they haven’t. Absolute fantastic movie that still holds up perfectly–even the kids enjoyed this one.

  • A Grisham movie, preferably A Time to Kill. It’s been a while since I’ve seen this one, but would love to revisit. I know I’ve read all of the earlier books like The Client and The Rainmaker, but I can’t remember which ones I’ve seen in the movies. (I don’t even remember if there’s a courtroom scene in those? I know there’s not one in the Pelican Brief.) I guess Runaway Jury is eligible, but I’m certain I haven’t seen that one.

  • The Devil’s Advocate. I am not hoping for this one, as I’m pretty sure I hated it when I saw it in the theater. But the Ringer crew has talked this up a number of times, and I think it makes it.

I feel like those 4 are almost locks.

  • Liar, Liar. I’m not a Jim Carrey guy, but I really liked this movie, and I feel like they might throw in a comedy or two. Also a possibility is Legally Blonde for the same reason. But if it’s only one comedy, then I think My Cousin Vinny gets it.

  • Courage Under Fire. I haven’t seen or thought about this movie since I saw it in the theater, but my god they’ve referenced it constantly in other episodes. I’ll be pretty surprised if it’s not one of the picks.

  • Jagged Edge. This is a dark horse I’m really hoping for. Glenn Close and Jeff Bridges are both great, and the script is by Joe Eszterhas (Basic Instinct). Fingers crossed.

  • Class Action. Another dark horse, this one with Gene Hackman and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, where the class action relates to defective autos. One part of me thinks they’ll never pick this, but on the other hand I’ve been happily surprised by Vision Quest and Cocktail, so who knows.

  • And Justice For All. I’ve never seen this one, but a highly-rated Al Pacino movie seems very possible.

Other possibilities:

  • To Kill a Mockingbird. I really don’t actually think there’s any chance of this one, absent them getting someone like Aaron Sorkin to cohost. But some random website is calling it the best courtroom drama ever, so I suppose it’s possible.

  • Philadelphia is a fine movie, but it’s not one that I really ever feel like rewatching.

  • The People vs. Larry Flynt. I should probably give this one another chance, but I remember not loving it in the theater.

Definitely disagree on For Love of the Game being bad. The love story in it was worthless, but the Costner character arc was still well-done and my enjoyment of the movie is entirely unironic. The use of Vin Scully was masterful. Would happily sit and watch that 20 more times.

Draft Day I have the same relationship with as you do: it’s absurd and terrible, but was a guilty pleasure all the same. Not sure I could watch it 20 times though.

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My Cousin Vinny seems like a lock. A Time to Kill does also. Unfortunately 12 Angry Men seems like a huge longshot because the only Ringer host I expect has actually bothered to watch it is Van Lathan. And perhaps Joanna Robinson, but I don’t think she’s ever been brought in on The Rewatchables. FWIW I think it would be eligible because there’s a brief jury instruction scene in the courtroom and Bill was specifically bothering to hedge about language about there being a courtroom scene in the eligible movies.

And Justice for All was terrible, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was on the list. I’d enjoy hearing a Liar Liar episode, but I’m not sure whether Jennifer Lawrence has time right now.

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Oh, let me be clear. I don’t think it’s bad. I just recognize that it’s probably not… widely respected.

And I don’t appreciate the Kelly Preston slander.

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Kelly Preston is quite fetching in that movie, and I think she does a fine job, but I do think the movie is largely one of waiting for the next baseball scene to start. The sole value in that plotline is in demonstrating the cost to Billy Chapel in having been so singularly devoted to only caring about baseball for his entire life to that point. I love a good love story, but that ain’t it IMO.

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I love Devil’s Advocate. Total guilty pleasure popcorn movie. Pacino’s speech is incredible.

I thought Heat was their first episode?

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Holy fuck, she’s a savage! Blow a rightskie right up her yawning MAGAcrevice

It’s a little unclear because I think that The Rewatchables evolved first from talking about sports movies and then kind of arbitrarily talking about their presumably favorite movie, Heat. But I think they said on the Primal Fear podcast that A Few Good Men was the first official “The Rewatchables” episode.

Edit: Because apparently I’m not going to bed tonight, I looked it up on Spotify. Here are the first episodes:

  • Any Given Sunday (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan to induct ‘Any Given Sunday’ into the Sports Movie Hall of Fame.”)
  • White Men Can’t Jump (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan and Rembert Browne to induct ‘White Men Can’t Jump’ into the Sports Movie Hall of Fame.”)
  • Moneyball (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan to induct ‘Moneyball’ into the Sports Movie Hall of Fame.”)
  • Blue Chips (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Mark Titus and Chris Ryan to induct ‘Blue Chips’ into the Sports Movie Hall of Fame.”)
  • Heat (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan to induct ‘Heat’ into the Movie Hall of Fame.”)
  • Jerry Maguire (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan and Juliet Litmen to induct ‘Jerry Maguire’ into the Sports Movie Hall of Fame.”)
  • A Few Good Men (“HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Ryan and Amanda Dobbins to celebrate and appreciate 1992’s ‘A Few Good Men’ in the inaugural episode of ‘The Rewatchables’ …”)

OMFG - is Costner going to trade 3 1sts for the #1 overall, then decide to draft a middle linebacker instead of the generational QB? Please tell me this isn’t going to happen. (Okay don’t tell me yet until I watch this damn thing)

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Ah fair but consider the casting.

I agree with Matt Singer’s suggestion that this really could have been benefited from casting the star of Fleabag as a continuation of Indy without needing to star Harrison Ford. My response was this is Disney’s chance to stop being cowards and use Disney+ to give us the Indiana Jones/Rocketeer crossover we deserve.

Must say this has got me curious to revisit the much acclaimed Young Indiana Jones Chronicles from the 90s. Inspired by the amazing young Indy sequence that opened Last Crusade.

Supposed to be quite good. Very high budget and though canceled was so acclaimed that it then spawned four TV movies.

Each episode was bookended by an old Indiana Jones played by George Hall. Looks as much like actual old Harrison Ford as the old Wesley Crusher in TNG lol.

The show provided back story for the films. His relationship with his father, first introduced in Last Crusade, was depicted in episodes showing his travels with his father as a young boy and brief times as a young adult. His original hunt for the “Eye of the Peacock”, a large diamond seen in Temple of Doom, was a recurring element in several stories. The show also chronicled his activities during World War I and his first solo adventures. Later, in the 2008 film Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Indy describes his adventures with Pancho Villa (chronicled in the first episode) to Mutt Williams (at the time, his sidekick; later on revealed to be his son). He also mentions his mother to Mutt.

Indy was otherwise played by Sean Patrick Flannery (and even younger by Corey Carrier), but Harrison Ford did actually film scenes himself for one episode. Maybe we should consider this the actual fourth and final film?

Had the series been renewed for a third season, Young Indy would have been introduced to younger versions of characters from Raiders of the Lost Ark: Abner Ravenwood (“Jerusalem, June 1909”) and René Belloq (“Honduras, December 1920”).

Clint Eastwood was approached to play the elder brother of Indiana Jones, but he turned it down despite a $10 million offer

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Is there a contradiction in the blonde playmate? In Apocalypse? lol @RiskyFlush

Dont raise the price of mangoes on the sampan

What does that mean

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The scene in the helicopter. she’s outwardly sexually progressive and in the moment pretty free with it with Lance, and talking about something like it scarred her.

HE’S GOT NOTHING LEFT TO TRADE FOR #6!!! GAHHHH!

YOU CAN’T TRADE 3 YEARS IN THE FUTURE!!!

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Storms rollin through the KC metro

Where you at, Suz?

LA

A 5’7 middle linebacker goes #1 overall.