Idk about that, but I liked it. He wasn’t some playboy getting models, but a loser and a loner.
He’s all right in my book
No, Affleck. Note I am not defending the movies but the actor as the character was money for me.
I’m sitting through St. Elmo’s Fire now. The Rewatchables guys better do nothing but make fun of this movie or I’m gonna be pissed.
Did no one know what stalking was in the 80s? I was there and I’m pretty sure we did. Emilio Estevez is literally a psychotic dangerous stalker.
Maybe that’s why my friend went off the deep end and stalked his ex (who ended up dating pretty much everyone in our group of friends), doing stuff like breaking into her car and leaving a black rose on the seat. He watched too many movies like this and Say Anything.
And Mare Winningham doesn’t feel right about driving a car like a (checks notes) Chrysler LeBaron, while working is social service.
Literally no one in this movie is a remotely hinged person. Almost all of them are terrible people.
Me and my friends were pretty much vapid, aimless, drug-addled losers in our early 20s. And yet we were still far more interesting, deeper, more thoughtful people than these bozos.
But were you all as good-looking as they were?
It is time for you to finally be ushered into the halls of mystery, where we keep the secret origins of Iron Man.

I wasn’t, but some of my friends and their GFs weren’t bad.
Stalking was considered charming in the 80s.
Me, who learned courtship from Say Anything, St. Elmo’s Fire, and Revenge of the Nerds: Why are you calling grand romantic gestures “stalking”? Also, why do people not appreciate the majesty and rich tapestry of Love, Actually? Also, why do 8 different women have restraining orders against me?
a good friend thinks it’s among the most misogynistic movies ever made (in this century). Sideways is on the short list too.
She’s a lot of fun at parties
She probably is loads of fun at parties where people are not watching and/or defending movies presented in pop culture as worthy moments of romance lol
I don’t think representation of terrible men doing terrible things to women is an endorsement of them. In fact most of my favorite stories are experiences of voyeurism wherein awful people do awful things.
But I am all for it if your friend is using the movies as a channel to speak out against men who identify with those characters and mirror their behavior.
The story with Liam Neeson and his kid is still very charming. The Andrew Garfield one was always just highly uncomfortable; “aged poorly” doesn’t come into it with that one, because it’s weird that anyone ever processed it any other way. The capper to the Colin Firth story still feels delightful even though that story is absurd and the romance is obviously dead after a brief period of infatuation that winds down shortly after the credits roll. I’m still very fond of the Emma Thompson/Alan Rickman stuff even though obviously “charming” isn’t what they’re going for there.
Nobody capitalized on this better than The Police.
To be clear, I unironically continue to like Love, Actually.
lol no it wasn’t.

