It starts off with Nunn trying to explain that the Dems, and by extension, us, are in grave danger because their leverage is a figment. They have none because the GOP will never do the right thing and will happily let everybody die, so, Dems should take whatever they can and immediately improve the material conditions of people. Posters pushed back saying that for one reason or another the GOP would come to the table and have their hands forced. Ok, fine.
1k posts later posters are posting Lucy Football macros saying, āThat crazy Nunn, thinking the GOP will come to the table and do the right thing. West Wing much LOL!ā
Itās one of the more insane threads Iāve ever read.
I mean seriously, if you want something to happen to either nunn or cuse, flag some of their bad posts. Thatās how you get mod attention. I donāt read every thread, and I certainly donāt read every wall of text in every thread, and I even more certainly donāt read a petty slap fight in the middle of some thread I donāt read. If that petty slap fight is rising to the level of running afoul of community standards, then thereās a button for it. Iām not supporting any containment until weāve at least been through some iterations of that.
This is the confusing ~50 ex-poker players chatting around our virtual water cooler -vs- movers-n-shakers with national platforms Mad-Men-ing up ad campaigns.
I have never watched The Simpsons, so I donāt know how to take this. I think thank you? She seems to be the cool and smart one in all of the memes. I know I donāt want to be Bart or Homer.
You left out the part where the argument is mostly in good faith for hundreds and hundreds of posts over several weeks, with like the worst things being directed at nunn as āLOLā only to eventually have nunn start mis-characterizing our positions and suggesting that we are hoping for and rooting for no deal so that there will be death and suffering. We then push back on that and say that we are rooting for a deal, but a good deal, and that no deal is better than a bad deal because it will lead to less suffering in the mid and long run.
Somewhere in there he says weāre basically calling him a bad guy, and I tell him I donāt think anyone thinks heās a bad guy, we disagree with him on what will minimize suffering, and he should stop characterizing us as hoping for suffering/death/no deal.
He continues doing it, and says what Iām doing is gross and that Iām boiling lives down to political EV. Having already gone round-and-round on this with him, I snap and say "THE EV IS IN LIVES SAVED, STOP BEING A JACKASS. Iām calculating how many lives we can save with each plan, relatively speaking, and going with the one that saves the most.
FOR FUCKS SAKE STOP CHARACTERIZING MY POSITION."
Apparently I got auto-corrected here or something, I meant mis-characterizing. Never the less, the discussion was pretty much in good faith and minimally heated until he insisted on repeatedly mis-characterizing all of us as rooting for death/suffering, which the first few times I pushed back on in good faith and explained our thought processesā¦ He continued saying it, which is a pretty serious character attack, and it spiraled from there.
Letās just try cuse putting Nunn on ignore and see if the threads improve. Then later we can make a decision on whether the forum thinks nuns posting leads to issues for lurkers etc?
Aw man. Itās never too late. The Halloween treehouse of horror episodes are worth watching alone. Theyāre often like hilarious five-minute spoofs of Twilight Zone.
