I don’t think the issue is not being able to describe it; it’s that pornography, like trolling, has certain qualities, but it’s difficult to draw an exact line where, say, erotica turns into pornography, or where obnoxious behavior turns unacceptable. And with trolling, if you try to set that firm line instead of using your best judgment, trolls will just find a way to edge as close to that line as possible without crossing it.
Or those with an axe to grind will weaponize the nebulous nature of “trolling” to try and eject anyone they find objectionable from the island. It’s the perfect complaint.
Weird how one person can grind their axe on something that takes a consensus vote!
I’m convinced at this point you’re either arguing in bad faith or you’re just not enough of an adult to process what it means to operate by values instead of rules, so, see ya in six months.
oh the irony
@churchill needs to be moderated. I don’t care if it’s a ban or not, I’m not really familiar with his posting tbh, but his posting in the Epstein thread is fucking disgusting. “These girls weren’t FORCED to go give Epstein handjobs, they did it willingly because they were from a poor part of town” is not discussion that should be permitted. Nor is saying the woman who groomed these girls (oh and also sometimes fucked them too) bears no culpability unless the air traffic controller who let them take off at the airport is equally culpable.
Disagree that he needs to be moderated. He had an incredibly bad take and got deservedly steamrolled. If he does what he says and gets out of that thread with that nonsense then who cares.
Last two takes are good as a supposedly civilised community that’s supposed to be setting an example to the Neanderthal world ruled by the right. Persuade, not ban.
Be the change you want to see etc.
First take not so hot.
Although if he keeps posting about it his conversation should be split off to a new thread with this title
And it keeps getting worse. If anything is a unilateral temp ban, this is it.
I almost never care about moderation but this clown needs a break.
I’ve looked at this thread less than a handful of times ever, but came here to see if this was being discussed. His takes in the Epstein thread are indefensible.
I agree. Any moderation action should reflect the views of the general community. Nothing could be clearer than the general community finds his posts in that thread despicable. Therefore, a temp-ban is certainly justified.
Would be a mercy temp-ban at this point.
Yeah, it’s not gonna stop, get the trolling quarantined imo.
we aren’t interested in whether he rethinks his position in this instance.
the people asking for his ban
What’s the point of this forum then. A circle jerk?
just speaking for myself but assume others feel the same way, we are fine with debating, this isn’t a debate.
I see a debate there and I see him debating. What do you see?