"Missing" persons and other murder mysteries

Probably worse if you do it after she’s dead.

Some tiktok sleuth looked into a couple of marginal online accounts to see if they followed anyone.

The first one had no follows.

The second one was Spotify and he followed Jack Harlowe, Nirvana, AND two of the victims. That’s it.

Also he has a couple of death-centric play lists.

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I hope it goes without saying these situations aren’t in the same ballpark at all…

I was in a bank that got robbed when I was a (quite sheltered) college student. The robbery itself was incredibly uneventful, but my thinking the whole time was incredibly bizarre. I had approached a teller to deposit a baller ~$300 check from Absolute Poker. Guy up for the teller next door is wearing a black leather jacket, dark sunglasses.

My mind was simultaneously thinking “this guy’s a bank robber, obviously” and “bank robberies don’t actually happen lol but whatever you do don’t look over at that guy”. The teller working with me just fidgeted with the check for a bit and I saw a distinguished-looking guy in a suit appear behind the counter and nonchalantly give some kind of approval. Several seconds later my teller sighs and relaxes and says “that was a bank robbery”.

From the point I looked away from the robber until it was over my mind had completed dismissed that anything strange was going on other than “don’t look over”.

Guy crashed his bike into a cop car minutes later.

Anyhow, I can’t possibly imagine what tricks my mind would play if I was in the position of the housemate.

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Several genealogists I talked to made the case that people would rather not know they are related to suspected killers and rapists.

Seems correct. Not sure why the author is convinced there is something nefarious here in the same article it quotes a skeptical innocence project guy that had two suspects exonerated from this technique?

I think the toothpaste is mostly out of the tube. There is a lot of self submitted dna out there these days so being able to track Almost anyone down to a familial DNA will be possible soon.

I know personally I will never submit my dna, but I can’t say the same for all my family a couple levels deep. I have decided because of this o won’t commit murder of random strangers.

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Eh just don’t leave your dna at the scene bro

Good point.

I think kohberger tried that but still left his dna on sheath snap. I theorize he left that dna there before he ever went to the house because he was suited and gloved up at the house.

Also people have suggested he was considering going back in the house when he realized he left the sheath in there. So even best laid plans. :pensive:

It was his dad’s DNA, unless mistaken.

That’s what I understood. They initially had the car, but that didn’t help much. They got the DNA off the sheath, but it didn’t hit any criminal databases. So they used the ancestry database to get a genealogical match. My understanding is that the DNA was of his father, but the initial query probably didn’t pinpoint it to the father, probably just at the broad familial level, which combined with the car and cell pings narrowed it down to the son.

I would be curious to know the costs of genealogical research and investigation, and the effect that defunding could have on the police’s ability to use these techniques.

It’d be interesting. I haven’t heard anything abusive about it yet, mostly because it’s so general that it can only be used in conjunction with other investigation. The mentioned it having two parts, the analysis and then the building of the family tree. The building the family trees seems like it’d be the most personnel intensive. I’m curious if the building of the family tree is done by scratch every time or if they can tap into something like Ancestry.com or something where people have built out vertically and horizontally huge family trees.

This is from about a year ago, good info about the current state of genetic genealogy.

Pretty sure the DNA on the sheath was of the suspect. They matched it to the dad.

Yeah, the dna found in the garbage was the father’s, which was a close but not perfect match to that on the sheath, giving them the tie to the suspect that they needed.

https://twitter.com/Gawker/status/1613601995973173248?s=20&t=Ug7b8yCo3ihZvvh50bTCSw

The second worst part about all this are the internet sleuths. They have been consistently awful on a very large scale.

Some people have covered it really responsibly but they are the minority.

Anyone familiar with the Ana Walshe case?

To me the husband is clearly guilty. There is like no evidence she ever left the house.

Investigators have found possible grim evidence: blood and a bloody knife in the family’s basement, according to prosecutors; Brian Walshe’s internet records showing searches for how to dismember and dispose of a body, according to law enforcement sources; and a hacksaw and apparent bloodstains at a trash collection site, law enforcement sources said.

Law enforcement sources told CNN Tuesday that investigators sifting through trash at a Peabody, Massachusetts, transfer station found materials that may be related to the case, including a hacksaw, torn-up cloth material and what appears to be bloodstains.

Brian Walshe told investigators he last saw his wife the morning of January 1, when she said she needed to fly to Washington, DC, for a work emergency, according to an affidavit from police.

However, investigators found no evidence that his wife took her usual rideshare to the airport or got on a flight that day. Her phone also pinged near the house on January 1 and 2, according to commonwealth prosecutor Lynn Beland.

He made multiple unapproved trips the week of his wife’s disappearance, according to the affidavit, including to a Home Depot where he was seen on surveillance video wearing a surgical mask and surgical gloves and making a cash purchase. In court Monday, prosecutors alleged he spent about $450 on cleaning supplies, including mops, a bucket and tarps.

Law enforcement sources told CNN that investigators hope to collect blood samples from the couple’s sons so they have a “direct bloodline” sample to compare against traces of blood found in the couple’s basement.

Whew

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That is because non-awful people are the minority.