May be controversial to say, but fuck this guy.
All the sympathy in the world for people who kill themselves because of depression/etc, but the people who kill themselves because they can’t deal with the consequences of their heinous acts can go fuck themselves.
I don’t know that much about the case but, in general, those things aren’t mutually exclusive. Mental illness could have been involved in him killing his wife and the combo of those things (killing wife and mental illness) could have been involved in killing himself.
Maybe we can get @Surf to weigh in here, but my guess is that a significant percentage of those who one might classify as “people who kill themselves because they can’t deal with the consequences of their heinous acts” are also mentally ill.
There’s a lot of mentally ill people out there though who manage to not murder other people. Think of Ariel Castro, who abducted a bunch of women and then killed himself when he got caught. Was he mentally ill? Sure, but he still killed himself after he was caught because he couldn’t deal with those consequences and still knew what he did was wrong.
Same with this dude.
Maybe? It’s hard to get inside people’s heads based solely on news reporting.
Sure, but it seems super unlikely that someone was disorganized enough to not know that murdering his partner was wrong, yet was able to travel across the country before and after the event.
Bolded is more or less my opinion as well. Given that it is your view, I’m curious how often you have personally seen people sincerely expressing suicidal ideation (so we’re excluding those who are lying/faking it) who are NOT mentally ill . Has it ever happened?
95% is a very high number, but presumably you’ve seen plenty of people who have admitted to wanting to kill themselves, so if it is possible, it would seem that you’ve seen some of that 5% first hand.
Suicide can be a logical choice. People with poor reasoning skills can kill themselves because they incorrectly assess the costs and benefits of suicide. People suffering from mental illness may reason correctly, but their perception of reality is skewed and they have poor inputs into their reasoning process and reach the wrong conclusions about how they should act.
If assisted suicide becomes legal, we can open a new business. “Suicide World”. First we counsel you for at least an hour and attempt to talk you out of suicide (for a price). If that fails, we arrange your will (for a price) and your funeral (for a price). Then, in a clean and painless manner, we kill you. For a price.
This is just reinventing American health care. If you add an app to it and lose money for 5 years in a row, you could then sell it for hundreds of billions of dollars. Put on a black turtleneck and give it a go.
This is probably the most interesting question I’ve seen posed on this site yet. Thanks.
I think suicide facing life in prison is a rational decision, no mental illness required.
Also don’t think mental illness is a prerequisite for murder.
Depends on where. Norways prisons are probably better retirement plans than what like 70% of Americans get.
Seems like a lot of variance in American prisons. Most are absolutely hellish obviously but I heard federal prisons are way less bad. If he went to federal prison and his middle class parents gave him plenty of money on his books he would probably live a non horrible life. Still get to read books, still get to make friends, still get some decent food.
I think the fact that most prisoners with life in prison don’t commit suicide and most on death row don’t either and fight like hell to get off death row seems to signal prison is much better than death.
So you guys watch the new Dexter?
I keep forgetting but I am “gonna”
The suit will center on a police encounter with Petito and Laundrie on Aug. 12, 2021, during their trip in Utah, shortly before her death.
That interaction made headlines following Petito’s disappearance, with body camera footage released showing Petito visibly distraught. According to the police report, Petito told officers she had slapped Laundrie and hit him first and that he had grabbed her face.
But ultimately, both Petito and Laundrie said that they did not want to press charges and that they loved each other.
An independent review, completed in January this year, found that the officers made several mistakes in handling that case —misclassifying it as more of a mental/emotional health “break” rather than domestic violence, and lacking details in their reports.
Hasn’t the supreme court already ruled that police have no obligation to help?
Well sure, but let’s assume you’re a lawyer. Are you going to tell that to a grieving family or are you going to take their checks straight to the bank?
What Fred said, sometimes state rules offer more protection too.
Idaho student murder theories/predictions?
I haven’t really seen anything about it. I saw a brief clip earlier but don’t really know facts. If anyone has a good article or source please share.