He bet on baseball while still an active player.
Thing is that the nomination process tells voters to consider the character of the player.
And Pete Rose is a Grade A piece of shit. Not even the gambling but the drug trafficking and banging underage girls should be enough to keep him out.
I happened to look up Pete Rose Jr. I guess he really tried to follow in dadās footsteps. I knew he had a cup of coffee in the majors. 14 at bats at the age of 27. That was his only sniff of MLB. But I didnāt know he played minor league and independent league baseball until he was 39. Yikes.
Just wanted his dad to love him and he probably never did.
Pete Rose was a massive dirtbag but there are definitely no wife beaters or vile racists in the HOF so they got it right.
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One less to worry about getting in now!
Iām not a big āintegrity of the gameā guy, but betting on baseball is the cardinal sin. Itās always has been, and always will be. Even if he always bet on the Reds, what about the days he didnāt? Did he use the shitty relievers then? Give a star a day off? Ugh, gives me a headache. It trumps all his on field accomplishments.
Peteās in the record books. Thatās as far as he goes.
And Iām lenient on this sort of thing. I think Bonds/Sosa/McGuire/Clemens should all be in. Even Arod. Steroids was a grey area for a long time. Put on an asterisk or similar, but they get in.
I guess itās just my opinion, but the HoF is about talent and whoās the best to have ever played the game. Itās why Iām much more in favor of Rose getting in than I am of someone like Sosa whoās a clear cheat
I guess Iām more willing to forgive gamblers than cheats
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If Chris Benoit was as good at baseball as he was at wrestling, would people be pushing for him to be in the HOF?
I didnt think Mcquire or Sosa should be eligible because their careers dont back it up, not because theyre cheats. Thats why they rarely come up in these situations.
Royals are gonna in the series 1-0, 1-0.
HoF voting is entirely subjective. Donāt cheat if you want a bunch of old, baseball writers to vote for you.
Go get 'em Tigers!!!
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I guess itās the conservative in me. If phil Ivey was caught doing something terrible (that was not cheating), should that take him out of the poker HoF? To me, the hall of fame should be filled with those who were the best of the best at their craft. Being a shitty human being should have nothing to do with it so long as your accomplishments in the industry are valid
Of course, I canāt win this argument because people have different standards for what the HoF means, I guess
When asked to name the top 20 best poker players, Phil Iveyās name will definitely come up. As would Pete Rose for best baseball players
It shouldnāt.
Because of his stats?!
Yes. Heās no where near the top 20. He was a good player that played a super long career and almost never got injured so accumulated a ton of hits, but only had a few truly elite seasons.
stats arenāt the only thing that matters for halls of fame, or else thereād never be any non-players in there q.e.d.
Imagine how bad a sports better Rose must have been that bookies were still taking action from him on games he was actually managing lol. Inappropriate for this guy to get any sympathy on a gambling forum.
Yeah, this is my take as well. At a fundamental level sports have rules and if you break rules there are consequences. Block the baseline without the ball? Runner is safe. Bet on games? No HoF. It seems reasonable tbh. I kind of agree that gambling, at least the way Rose did it, isnāt as bad for the game as juicing, but Iām fine if the consequences are similar.