He owes $148 million and had given a few watches so let’s say more than that. 
If someone wanted to place a bet based on percentage of his wealth he has to lose to be considered real consequences, what number would that be?
I don’t think you can use dollars as a clear cut metric for “consequences”. Like, I think everyone can agree that if you get imprisoned, that’s a consequence.
But if you lose your house and cars and watches and your bank account gets emptied, but then some other rich folks just rent you a new house and float your same lifestyle, that’s not really a consequence.
Or if you pay an $x million judgement, but are a trillionaire or can just grift a fresh $x million, that’s not really a consequence either imo.
1 Like
Exactly. So in other words, there are no parameters which can be set to where people like Clovis won’t righteously keep chirping about people like myself and Iron being wrong. Notice how he can’t say that he himself has been right. He was wrong about no charges for Trump. After there were charges, he was wrong about ther being no federal charges. After there were federal charges, he was wrong about there will never be a conviction. And then he was wrong about there not being a punitive verdict
Looks like Clovis has been wrong way more times than Iron. He just gets to keep moving the goal posts, which gives the false impression he’d be winning all the bets he never had the courage to make
1 Like
lol I have made way more bets on here than most people.
And lol to your revisionist history. My definition of consequences has never changed. Also I regularly post on here admitting when I am wrong.
Your entire post is pure gaslighting. 100% made up start to finish.
its a bold take to claim that the guy that asserted Donald J. Trump would never face consequences for his misdeeds was less right than those that thought he would.
3 Likes
all anyone gets is satisfaction at all that time he wasted in his life whining on the internet about it
at one point he was the only person in the world who thought consequences could happen
So, basically death or prison are the only real consequences. I guess Luigi Mangione had it right.
Or meaningful financial penalty, or any adjustment in lifestyle whatsoever. Might even settle for a heartfelt “I’m sorry”.
Just have to financially punish someone who’s not rich or doesn’t have rich friends.
I remember one of the CONSEQUENCES geniuses argued him having to show up in court counted as a consequence. I forget which one.
Lmao
Rudy is facing real consequences, but he’s a very rare exception.
Not really, lots in the Trump sphere faced consequences. Trump and the other politicians didn’t, but he didn’t do much to help out his associates. Once people are no longer useful to him, he’s happy to throw them aside. Trump did pardon a few of them, but not all. As for Rudy, he’s clearly been begging Trump for financial help for quite a while, and Trump has basically turned him down (Rudy’s had to file for bankruptcy and his lawyer have quit since he can’t pay them).
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/07/trump-associates-prison-sentence-crimes-list
Same with the J6ers, yeah, they are going to get pardons now, but Trump if he wanted could have pardoned them all before his first term ended - he only started to care about their consequences when he realized doing so would help him (both get re-elected and make money off that stupid song).
How could he have pardoned them before they were charged?
Same way Biden pardoned Hunter.
3 Likes
Ford pardoned Nixon. No actual charges need to exist, much less a conviction.
1 Like
The low-level pawns like the J6ers got consequences, but Rudy was the only high-profile guy to get got, and that’s mostly because he’s a drunk incompetent buffoon. None of the checks and balances actually apply to Trump, who gives no fucks if his underlings go to jail for him.
Trump is president again and richer and more powerful than ever. I don’t see a sane case to be made for Trump facing consequences.
1 Like
Well there’s consequences and there’s net consequences
And positive and negative consequences
I learned this in biz school
4 Likes