LOL Democrats - Tik Tok on the clock, but the party don't stop

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Sounds like shes 100% retiring. Cant imagine Nancy does this without foreknowledge.

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The “as long as Dianne Feinstein doesn’t run for reelection” is doing some moderately heavy lifting here.

Maybe this is the party’s way of quietly encouraging her to retire

should be reserved for people who know where they are more than 50% of the time.

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Like Knoxville TN and dozens of other places you say only moderates can win?

Oh boy

This has been happening everywhere for a very long time

It gets fierce resistance and your side calls them outside agitators, and denies legitimacy when they win, but your idea of what “progressive activists” do or don’t do is wildly inaccurate

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I guess that depends on how one defines “progressive activists”.

I would not consider, e.g., Emily’s List progressive activists, but my position is probably in the minority.

It’s a lot simpler. People disagree with AQs friends, but once those experiences get filtered, cherrypicked or made up it becomes something nefarious.

Dude, I legitimately have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.

You want the brutal truth? I care about winning. I want people on the BLUE side to beat out people on the RED side. That is what matters, because until we flip those seats and increase our influence, then how far left someone is on the spectrum doesn’t amount to fuck all. That’s what the local party is for: winning seats. You seem to have it in your head that I hate progressives. The truth is, i don’t give a fuck how someone identifies on the blue side of the spectrum.

I don’t care if you’re a dyed in the wool socialist or a moderate democrat. What I do care about is if you are more committed to winning seats, holding seats, and flipping red to blue than you are to perpetuating stupid infighting that is unnecessary and harmful. What makes me angry is when we spend more time dealing with bullshit infighting than we do working toward expanding our influence and closing gaps like the urban-rural divide. How can we be out there recruiting candidates and winning votes when we’re taking shots (and firing them) from within? It’s infuriating.

Get the votes, get the power. If you’d rather be out in the streets, that’s fine. We need you there! But if you want to do politics, then learn the game, win the power, and then change the game.

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Putting words in their mouth but I think AQ is saying that 99% of the shots and infighting are coming from the moderate side against any attempt by a left winger to do any winning of power. I think the contention is that the blue team would win a massive amount more power if the EDems cared less about punching leftwards and retaining their positions within the political structure and more about taking on the GOP. EDems would rather lose every seat to the frothiest maga lunatic than see a leftist win one and they fight with that aim in mind.

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You may see it that way, but from my personal experience, both in my county party, on campaigns, and on these mean internet streets, it is definitely coming from both sides. When I’m sitting on our party central committee, I vote to endorse the person who I think will win that seat. That means I’ll vote for a far left progressive for seats in the city or county-wide. But for people trying to flip seats, I’m gonna vote for the person who I think actually has a chance. And in Santee, that isn’t gonna be the socialist. Sorry.

Once the party endorses, I’m all for whoever it is. I spend zero energy thinking about any candidate but the one who has to win the election. To some, this is not a reasonable position. There are ways to go about affecting change that do not involve literal sabotage of candidates and issues because they aren’t far enough left for you. We had an entire club of “progressives” (a Young Dems club) working actively to elect our REPUBLICAN opponent because my candidate wasn’t far enough left for them. And that’s just one example.

Like I said, i don’t care if you’re far left or smack in the middle. I DO care when you put your personal agenda over doing everything in your power to win elections. Am I saying to “fall in line” during election season? You bet your ass I am. Once we win, THEN start activating to push for the things you want.

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A conditional lol depending on the accuracy of your guess.

I’m not talking about the internet I’m talking about real life. Obviously leftists on twitter love a good dunk but that’s because they get owned so hard in the meatspace.

The problem of course, is lol two party system (probably lol political parties in general). You got leftists congregating to winnnnnnn with people who’d be further right than many conservative governments in other countries.

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Our system sucks because the Founding Fathers were lol on political parties.

This can go in a couple of places I guess

Upending decades of political tradition, members of the Democratic National Committee voted on Saturday to approve a sweeping overhaul of the Democratic primary process, a critical step in President Biden’s effort to transform the way the party picks its presidential nominees.

For years, Democratic nominating contests have begun with the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, a matter of immense pride in those states, and a source of political identity for many highly engaged residents.

But amid forceful calls for a calendar that better reflects the racial diversity of the Democratic Party and the country — and after Iowa’s 2020 meltdown led to a major delay in results — Democrats endorsed a proposal that would start the 2024 Democratic presidential primary circuit on Feb. 3 in South Carolina, the state that resuscitated Mr. Biden’s once-flailing candidacy. It would be followed by New Hampshire and Nevada on Feb. 6, Georgia on Feb. 13 and then Michigan on Feb. 27.

I mean fucking lol at the first primary being in a state last won by dems in… 1976, but the rest are pretty good.

NH gonna put up that fight tho

resistance to the proposal has been especially fierce in New Hampshire, where officials have vowed to hold the first primary anyway, whatever the consequences.

New Hampshire, a small state where voters are accustomed to cornering candidates in diners and intimate town hall settings, has long held the first primary as a matter of state law.

New Hampshire Republicans, who control the governor’s mansion and state legislature, have stressed that they have no interest in changing that law, and many Democrats in the state have been just as forceful and have argued that they cannot make changes unilaterally. Some have also warned that Mr. Biden could invite a primary challenge from someone camped out in the state, or stoke on-the-ground opposition to his expected re-election bid.