replace/add Ds or leave if you consider Ds are largely conservative
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And itâs obv BS considering Rs fought to leave the 80% out, but the Ds got played again, and itâs their fault for playing.
Nancy Pelosi did her best.
What do you consider âplayingâ here? Trying to pass a bill?
The game of thinking they can compromise and still control the narrative.
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Trump has like a childâs brain. Someone says âif the government just paid for everyoneâs healthcare, then weâd save a ton of moneyâ and he says well why donât we do that?
Someone says âwe literally need to give everyone cash right now or the country could descend into chaosâ and he says letâs do it. Pelosi says âthatâs not the governmentâs responsibilityâ because she canât comprehend what living paycheck to paycheck actually means.
Yeah, but the problem seems to be they have no levers to control the narrative regardless of their play. Right wing media is dedicated propaganda, so that will pump out whatever makes Rs sound good, but the rest of media outlets that matter are for-profit soulless creatures, so they are going to push stupid horse race stuff and give air to the Rightâs narrative regardless of the facts. Dems are fucked.
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Exactly, which is why their image should never be a factor in compromising. Compromise when itâs the best play, not when you think the image of being a Great Compromiser will offset something else.
Oh, I didnât realize the Dems made a compromise based on image in this instance?
Iâm speculating and speaking in general but the alternative is worse in this specific instance.
I understand that Nancy Pelosi did her best. Republicans prevented it.
Just keep in mind that the incompetence excuse for the dems is out the window. They know exactly what theyâre doing.
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Sorry, I mistyped that. I meant to say:
âI understand that Nancy Pelosi did her best. Republicans prevented it.â - Bernie Sanders, at the last presidential debate.
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When she offered the same shit Boris Johnson did, then we know what page she was on all along.
It is my understanding that something close to 90% of the people who are supposedly left out, already receive paid sick leave. I think you are mischaracterizing what happened, they were âleft outâ because they had sick leave already, Pelosi ostensibly was concerned about people without sick leave.
In an alternate universe where Pelosi et al write a bill that covers sick leave for major corporations, Vict0ar come in here screaming about how itâs evidence she is in the pocket of big business.
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The other day I saw a list of large employers who basically offer no paid sick leave and accounted for millions of jobs. None of them are covered by the house bill.
Why create an exception for employers with over 500 employers? It doesnât make sense. If companies already pay sick leave the bill does nothing to them.
Meanwhile a massive number of people are not going to be covered.
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I donât know. I imagine it was because the Senate wouldnât get on board with more. But I guess we should just assume itâs just because Pelosi actually doesnât want to help those people.
There needs to be a cash handout to every single person. There are tons of people losing out on money that would regularly be coming into their household that canât be covered by means tested programs and things like sick leave or unemployment. We need cash going to everyone (yes technically the top 0.5% probably donât need it but the complexity added but cutting them out isnât worth it) and it needs to happen quick.
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Ok, thatâs a cool wish list. How is Pelosi supposed to make that happen?
the least she could do is pass a bill that actually does the minimum that is needed. people arenât out of work because theyâre sick, people are out of work because thereâs lots of industries with no business right now.