Both movies and video games have a similar problem where the same things just make a fuckton of money. Marvel movies, star wars, pixar rake in money the same way call of duty, madden and fortnite does.
So we just get a slightly tweaked version every year of these products.
The middle has fallen out in both of these mediums. No one makes games/movies for 50 million anymore. Its either super cheap or super expensive. The super expensive ones are safe because they can’t afford to bomb.
But I’m also bored to tears by the Avengers movies.
“Ok guys, it’s time for the 30-minute CGI final battle. It’s going to be rough. One of us is going to die. The big boss is going to have a disposable non-human army of robots or alien wraiths of something. Good luck everyone. Now let’s go charge at him all at once for dramatic effect!”
I actually enjoy a lot of the dialog and some of the stuff leading up to the final battle. But as soon as that starts I just want it to be over. And it seems like the final battle curse permeated stuff like LoTR and Chronicles of Narnia. I blame Braveheart, which is still one of my favorite movies, for starting the trend and ruining most action movies.
There is an attitude that we must take black America representation in films seriously but not black Africa, which if not racist is certainly an imperialist mindset, wouldn’t you say?
I don’t enjoy the spectacle at all. That’s the point. It’s like Bart saying woozle wuzzle at this point. I don’t enjoy any of the early battles where you know nothing bad is going to happen. I don’t enjoy almost all of the CGI effects (ok Guardians was cool and the Deadpool opening scene is amazing). I don’t enjoy the final battle. The dialog and plot between them can be very fun.
I hope you don’t put me in the “thinking it’s infantile crowd” ?
My issue with comic book films is the poor quality, in general, not the medium. I still consider the Watchmen graphic novel top 10 most formative things I read growing up.
I even like a few comic book films.
However, too often they rely exclusively on cliche, special effects, and formula instead of trying to use the medium for something original.
Mostly my hatred stems from the fact they have squeezed out middle budget movies all together. Films of that budget level are often my favorite.
I dont think superhero movies are to blame for this, its just a late stage capitalism effect.
Those are the types of movies that are the riskiest to make profit off of.
For Marvel, their battles/fight scenes generally suck. LOTR: Helms Deep was one of the best battles ever filmed, but the battle in ROTK didn’t stand up to it.
Idk, its just a film by film thing for me. Also, if you’ve seen enough movies, its hard to get super pumped by a fight scene in 2020. Just about everything has been done. I enjoyed the brutality of something like the hallway scene in Oldboy or Kill Bill 1, but its tough to get there in 2020 imo.
Ok I can see this, because I feel the same way about games. But I don’t think this necessarily genre-dependent. It’s money. If period dramas made the most money, We’d be seeing the same phenomenon but with 47 Pride and Prejudice clones.
This is where I am weird. I don’t find any battle scenes interesting. Really any action. Even in action films the action parts are almost always the most boring parts.
I find so much more excitement and drama from human interaction in film.
I feel like everyone on this forum knew this about you before you explicitly stated it.
And that’s obviously fine! Do you tend to shy away from violence/horror as well in general, or just kind of “action?”
I personally don’t really have a preference. I love the opening scene in Inglorious Basterds but also love The Bride slicing through 100 people.
I’m kind of the same way. But I can still get into a good action scene where I feel like there are actual stakes involved, like you mentioned.
The problem is once you do something once or twice, it gets boring. I feel for action directors trying to keep scenes fresh. The Matrix was mind-blowing when it came out. But just a year or two later it looked like every other sci-fi action scene.
I watched the first 1.5 episodes of Game of Thrones and oddly enough it was the sex scenes that turned me off. I’m not sure why but I was like I don’t want to go through this for 5 minutes every episode.
So it was a lot of fun for me when the Game of Thrones finale and Avengers End Game were going on. I felt like the Onion “Area man doesn’t own a TV” guy every time someone tried to talk to me about them at work. I do think there’s a big social component to certain movies and TV shows once they get so big - where people don’t want to miss out.