I’m not sure you have the 3rd parties right here. If the Imgur link doesn’t work it’s because Imugr doesn’t want it to work. Uploads don’t go to Discourse servers, they go to our server. That’s ok. Storage and bandwidth are pretty cheap so upload away. But we are not paying for or using anything from the Discourse crew other than their open source software.
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Works for me? Lol dogs
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I changed it.
Not sure if this is LC-thread appropriate, but is there an established consensus on whether getting scientific papers from sci-hub is morally wrong? It’s hard to resist doing, but it is also clearly stealing.
Possibly wrong. Not clearly stealing.
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Clearly as stealing as downloading music from Napster was?
EDIT: Relatedly, is there some legitimate way for a non-academic to access scientific papers without spending thousands of dollars?
Same kind of thing, though still not an absolute lock that one is stealing IFF the other is. Imo.
What’s ownable is not clear. It’s part of the “social contract”, but of course that’s made up. I didn’t see or sign any contract.
(I’m talking morally obv. Legally still not clear though as it certainly depends on where you are.)
I tend towards respecting things like this though. I’ve never downloaded music illegally and only watched a pirated movie once. I’d never heard of this website for scientific papers before. It might be tempting.
Only thing I can think of is getting access through someone else’s account, which is essentially the same thing. Maybe you can enroll in a community college for less and get access yourself.
Do authors of academic papers get royalties from publishers?
Not even close imo, for this reason alone:
No.
I really tried not to wade back into this awful discussion but this is too much.
Estimates range from 40-70% of a persons weight is genetically controlled.
This whole discussion is exactly what it always is. Lol fat people should eat less burgers”
There is so much bias wrapped up in it.
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To clarify, the libraries of those academic institutions pay Elsevier et al a LOT of money for that access.
I’m at an academic institution right now and have used sci-hub before because our university doesn’t have access to that particular journal (or sometimes even that particular year of that particular journal).
And also, the scientific research in a large fraction of those papers is solely derived from taxpayer funds.
Agreed.
But I’m actually not sure if that is the university’s fault or if it’s against the terms of the publisher to do that.
Nope!
Do they actually make money from one-offs? I assumed that they got all their revenue from institutional subscriptions. It really is wild that academia allows the whole racket to persist. I know people hate pharma companies, but they do at least develop drugs in exchange for lucrative monopolies. The academic publishers just add zero value to anything.
It’s even worse. If I want to get a copy of one of my publications from the publisher I don’t even get a discount on the PDF!
I tried to get a PDF of something I published in PNAS and they told me I had to pay full price. Lol so I pirated it.
I was thinking about taking a token class at the local JC just to be able to buy NFL Sunday Tix on the cheap (and without needing to get the DirectTV satellite hardware installed).