I was pretty pessimistic but this is waaaaaaaaaaay worse than I could have ever imagined.
We are so, so fucked.
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What a massive whiff, damn
Good call though
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Johnsonās dad on c4 is ā¦ something
Damn I feel terrible for the people in the UK.
Iām also just super bummed out that this is the trajectory our world is taking. Is it similar in the UK where all the people voting conservative are boomers and selfish entitled shitheads? Is racism a huge part of it?
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Boris Johnson offered Stephen Miller writing tips. Yikes.
Im sorry to say thisā¦ but after watching this complete disaster unfold I think itās pretty obvious that running as a pure leftist against corporate media (which we absolutely have in the us as well) is suicide.
I really donāt like this conclusion obviously but I also donāt want to get completely rolled in 2020 so that Bernie can be ideologically pure and right.
Unfortunately Iām also now rooting for a no deal brexit that causes maximum damageā¦ because apparently āget Brexit doneā was an all time GOAT campaign slogan, which means the only cure for this mess is really obvious easily attributable suffering.
What the British left was thinking of running a pro leave leftist vs Boris Iāll never know, but I donāt want to hear any more defenses of Corbyn going forward. If he didnāt want to act like a politician he shouldnāt have entered politics.
Iām not British but Iād put the factors behind the defeat as something like this:
- Corbyn is unpopular
- People were sick to death of Brexit and wanted it over with (the Tory slogan was āGet Brexit Doneā)
- Labourās pseudo-socialist agenda is unpopular
My impression is that itās unclear how much of a factor 3) is here. The whole anti-semitism thing is a demonstration of my theorem that the content of scandals is far less relevant than how much voters want them to matter. The emails thing was a weak-ass scandal but voters didnāt like Clinton, so it was enthusiastically adopted as a stick to beat her with. Same thing with Corbyn and anti-semitism. You can blame the media but the media were unable to bring down either Obama or Trump with scandals, the former because of general popularity and charisma and the latter because his base were ride or die. The success of the mediaās campaign against Corbyn is largely a sign of the publicās dislike of him and his weakness among even Labour-leaning voters.
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Obama scandals were a lot fucking dumber than the trump onesāHE WEARS A TAN SUIT, HE LIKES THE FANCY MUSTARD, etc.
Iām talking about the campaign scandals - his association with a former member of the Weather Underground, āGod Damn Americaā, ācling to guns or religionā, etc. Those were scandals that could easily have brought down a lesser candidate, particularly a black one.
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And while Obama survived, the GOP did clean up in midterms under him. Itās a really tough time to make sweeping statements. Not much makes sense in the last decade in a bigger context.
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It kinda does, weāve always put one party in charge, then gotten tired of them and put the other one in charge, then do it again over 2 or 3 presidential elections or so. Oh, youāre thinking in terms of actual shit they did or did not do, yeah well thatās people they never make fucking sense.
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looks like Jo Swinson lost
Corbyn will step down as labour leader obviously.
I just mean tying British politics to American etc. It hasnāt really worked when trying to compare Trump to Le Pen or Boris or Scheer or whatever.
eh, I dunno man, politics seem global nowadays.
well, it was projected conservatives would get more seats than they are now. yeah I got nothing, 5 years of conservative majority everywhere, gl UK.
the biggest takeaway from them is fear sells; it sells hard in politics and itās gonna be tough to combat it.
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Passport is different from citizenship though
Citizenship comes first then you apply for the passport.
Honestly, the wait was because of America, not the Irish government. Even during the Obama administration, the State Department wasnāt all that organized. Can hardly imagine what itās like now.