Land of Hope & Glory? - UK Politics and other stuff

Yeah, my initial guess is that it makes Brexit more likely, but who knows what’s going to happen in the UK parliament and the courts over the next two weeks.

My understanding is that it’s the same deal except adding a border down the middle of the Irish Sea in all but name. Something the erg shat their collective pants about when May floated it but for some reason will be OK now that good old boy Eton Boris is proposing it.

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Good to see the waters clearing

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Typical Blue slant from the BBC’s poster girl for the Tories, Laura Kuenssberg:

He did it. They did it.

Boris Johnson and his team, who beat the odds in 2016, have overturned the conventional wisdom again.

The EU said they would not budge; their former Tory colleagues and the opposition colleagues said it was all a sham.

But after a breakneck set of negotiations, a deal’s been struck and the rest of the continent gave way on the controversial backstop, the feature of the former agreement that did for Theresa May.

In her haste to paint Johnson as the hero of the hour Tory Laura’s conveniently forgotten that the EU’s first offer of a settlement two years ago was what’s been agreed now ie a border down the Irish Sea.

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The DUP saying they won’t vote for it leaves the ERG in an interesting spot, having declared they take their cue from the DUP.

Internal NI politics have played some part I guess, with the DUP feeling heat from the UUP’s position.

It looks as though the vote may pass if either the DUP or ERG back it, but if neither do it will be very hard.

So is this development good or bad for you guys?

Brinkmanship but not as bad as you’d probably like.

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I think it does at least demonstrate how badly the EU wants shot of the UK. They’re willing to big up a clown like Johnson, whose whole political career is now built on shit talking them at every opportunity, and who they just depantsed in a negotiation, just to try and get them out now.

Well, it’s clearly inferior to the current deal of EU membership. But there’s a lot to be said for the idea of just letting it happen at this point as the constant inertia is just killing us all.

Plus I kind of want to see Boris and his expert team of negotiators move on to the next stage and attempt to deliver some trade deals. His entire strategy so far has been to bluff and bluster whilst blaming everyone else for obstructing his genius plans, so let’s see the Emperor marching down Pall Mall with his shrivelled cock and balls on full display.

Of course it won’t happen though. Parliament won’t pass this deal and Boris will get to moan and groan about how the evil remoaners kept us manacled to the EU, and he’ll team up with Farage and win a landslide whenever an election is called. Cliffs: we’re still fucked.

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There’s always hope.

Maybe if we can get out of Brexit via winning a second referendum: the next election is lost, Corbyn goes, someone electable on the left takes over the LP, Johnson’s clown act becomes obvious to all but the thickest of thickos…a lot can happen in a year.

Clutching at straws I know, but still…

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Am sure you know, but the Tories have never believed this. They govern in the name of “The Country”, a vague notion that makes them feel all glorious and funny in their tummies, but which cashes out as hot air. What they do instead is govern for the benefit of an elite, which they choose the entry criteria of based on who they feel is a good egg.

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Seems there’s enough Labour rebels that if the ERG vote for it, it will pass. So we’re once again in the ludicrous situation where the people who might prevent Brexit from happening are those most strongly in favour of it.