Pretty amazing to attack one of the most staid, conservative institutions ever as liberal. Even more so when you headed one of it’s flagship programmes for 32 years! The fact that he did it in the daily mail one of the most biased media outlets outside of north america really is the pièce de résistance.
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The worship of the likes of Humphrys and Paxman was always baffling to me. Pompous windbags more focused on procedural and semantic oneupmanship than political substance. Was still surprised by how cravenly low his bullshit was, though.
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I think I’d back that at 3.15, but sadly the option doesn’t exist for me. I do think no deal represents part of the value, though. There may be every reason to deal, but the EU position on Ireland isn’t something they’ll back away from and I don’t know that there’s a position that could be acceptable to them, but which would also allow Johnson et al to spin as a victory.
Although it occurs to me they could just make the deal be as vague and meaningless as the preliminary agreement was, and so push the substance down the road once again. I’d have guessed that if they could they’d have done it already, but why would a politician ever feel shy about passing the buck to save their arse?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1175454772763209729
https://mobile.twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1175465184992931845
Until a adult in the room stands up for this, it’s never getting resolved, all the B.S. About it being binding.
We’ve had 3 votes on a Brexit deal turned down, that’s enough for me to say that the non binding part now comes true and we walk away.
In all democracys we can take it back up if a party wishes too if they receive a majority, imo if this Brexit goes through it will break the country more than it not going through.
I’m gonna miss it as I’m working late 
But I’m looking forward to the highlights and the headlines when we win 3-0 that alough we’ve won the treble treble and have the best start to the season Ever that Mr Lennon is just lacking something something. 
Acording to Niel McCann Rennes are an average team who played really badly at home and The one thing I actually agree with is that we should have won the game.
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Brace yourselves for a busy week…
“The dominant feeling among informed observers is that the government is on the ropes and it’s going to lose,” said Philippe Sands QC, professor of law at University College London.
Seems fair
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I believe I read somewhere that some of the ex-pats voted for Brexit alough I’m not sure on the numbers. 
This is some fucked up shit alright… Like Dave here 
Dave bought his Spanish holiday home after voting to leave but told Mr Jenkins that he regretted his vote. He told the journalist the main factor in his change of heart was the loss of “freedom of movement in Europe, for the proper Europeans”.
I saw a bloke I used to play poker with a little while after the vote. Turned out he’d voted to leave which surprised me slightly, so I asked him what about his Mum? Who, last I knew, had retired to Spain.
“I never thought of that. Do you think it will affect her?”
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It’s just another example of this
I’ve heard that Spain has many ways in which to screw with non-Spanish home owners in their Laws regarding property rights, and we know how politicians like to make a few bucks when they can see a loophole. Fun times ahead for the Ex-pats.
yeah afaik the ex-pats went like 70-30 in favour of Brexit, prob closer to 99-1 on the Costa del Crime where they all sit around in the Only Fool & Horses Bar moaning about all the bloody foreigners.
I for one am shocked to discover that many of them didn’t understand what they were voting for.
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I kind of don’t get what the issue is. The Remain people want Labour to back Remain in a future referendum, right? Is that because:
a) That is necessary for Remain to win (even though they backed Remain last time and it lost)
b) That is necessary for Labour to win a GE (even though many Labour supporters voted Leave and presumably many, even if less, will do so again)
c) Something else?
Because I don’t think their backing a given side will make much difference to people’s votes in a referendum and I don’t see how doing so doesn’t actually hamstring their GE prospects. Can anyone explain (bearing in mind I really don’t much care about procedural business at the conference etc, just the broad brush-strokes of why everyone’s moaning).
The difficulty is, Labour can’t win either way. Obviously they’re not supporting Brexit (although Corbyn clearly wants it to happen) but if they come out for remain they’ll alienate around 40% of their base. Even the “pretend not to have an opinion on it” strat is doomed to fail because the entire fucking country DOES have an opinion on it and for many it’s the only thing worth getting out of bed to vote for.
The Tories and Farage get the vast majority of leave voters. Lib Dems get most of the remainers. Labour and the SNP will demolish London and Scotland, hoover up a few loyal northern cities but get wrecked everywhere else. Which all means an easy Tory majority, or at the very least a comfortable Tory/Brexit/DUP coalition after a Nov/Dec election no matter what happens at the end of October.
cliffs: we’re fucked
But a fair chunk - probably not half, but a fair chunk - like their policies, hate Tories and still want Brexit. So what good does it do them to alienate those people? The number of people who back Remain and will vote Labour-under-Corbyn is not enough to get a FPTP majority, or so it seems to me. Which is the answer to the question of why they don’t want to back Remain - I think (and assume they also do) that that would simply guarantee another Tory govt, with maybe the unlubed condom of a Lib-Dem coalition (yay plastic bag taxes and welfare cuts!).
End of the day, each pro-Brexit Labour supporter’s vote is worth exactly the same as each pro-Remain Labour supporter’s. I feel like this insistence they must back Remain is, fundamentally, a refusal to accept that fact.