Land of Hope & Glory? - UK Politics and other stuff

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That’s a whole other Prince I had no idea existed.

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Sure. I mean, when has a British partition ever gone wrong?

This bit, which is his quick summary of post partition Ireland, is pretty breath taking—the issue was the expansionary aims of the Republic!

For many years Irish nationalists refused to recognise the Unionist case, insisting on the inherent unity of the island of Ireland. Not until the Belfast / Good Friday agreement did Ireland accept that unity could not be achieved until Northern Ireland consented to it.

I especially enjoy the slightly tortured English of “the island of Ireland” instead of just, you know, Ireland.

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I wouldn’t take too much notice of what a Prof from the most right wing college in London Uni says.

How else would you make it clear that you don’t mean the Republic of Ireland?

Ireland is the name of the island, the Republic of Ireland is a country on it. Marty knows way more than me, but if you’re taking about a contested unity as well then it would seem plain what you would have meant.

I’m curious if this is terminology that has evolved over time for contexts that require geopolitical neutrality, such as journalism. Marty’s claim that all sides use it suggests this is the case.

Yeah, the use of terms is extremely political and if that’s a common and neutral one then fair enough. I’m a bit sceptical that many common examples have come about via neutral journalism, but it’s something they should be thinking about at least. And I must admit my preference to use Ireland as clearly refering to all of it in as many contexts as possible is not neutral.

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NSFW be warned :see_no_evil:

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