Land of Hope & Glory? - UK Politics and other stuff

People are wary of NS, I keep telling them that once Indy is over with who said their in power. :grin:

I think thatā€™s the main reasons for getting rid of Nicky, I donā€™t think she for getting paid off.

Serious question from a Yank:

Why does England care so much about holding on to N. Ireland, especially after already shedding most (all?) of her former empire?

If itā€™s not money I suppose the Tories could try more devolution ie letting Scotland set their own taxes, and become like the Isle Of Man or somewhere. Not sure that would satisfy many, though.

Itā€™ll be amusing if the party that has Unionist in its title oversees the end of he UK as we know itā€¦ :laughing:

But it will consign England/Wales to Tory rule for the rest of my lifetime, probably.

Bring on the child chimney sweepsā€¦

Thatā€™s were we headed atmā€¦ These new attacks on our civil rights and judiciary are eye opening.

Youā€™re asking the wrong question imo. Unionists have been a small majority of the NI population since before the Troubles began (though shrinking). If not for them then all of Ireland would probably have had some form of home rule over a century ago and gone from there.

(Not that this is any excuse for the violence Britain has caused there, obviously.)

Or what Marty said.

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Canā€™t wait to get rid of the backward bigots tbh.

https://mobile.twitter.com/g__ferris/status/1372653028210278401

Tory MP for Grimsby.

https://twitter.com/lia_nici/status/1372525673127014401

Imagine being proud of a flag. What kind of mind could be proud of a flag?

Well done, flag!

Itā€™s a proxy for the empire in a way which your adopted countryā€™s flag isnā€™t because (I speculate) Franceā€™s left and right unite in their nationalism and thus itā€™s a symbol of unityā€¦whereas our dear UJ just grates on the left (well, most of us).

Asking us to show pride in our flag or leave is another way of saying become a racist nationalist like me or fuck off.

Something like that anyway, and another one for the wall.

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I can see it as a proxy for the country and what that supposedly stands for. But she had already demanded pride for the country. You canā€™t then ask for pride in a poxy flag on its own!

I think you can if it symbolises something more than the current state of the country, such as history.

Even she canā€™t come out and say ā€œBe proud of everything we did for the natives under our Empireā€, even though thatā€™s what she means.

Itā€™s this bollocks idea that the great washout otherwise known as Keir Starmer is trying to appeal to.

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Talking of whomā€¦here he is taking a firm and uncompromising stance on something with next to no electoral liability. Such courage.

OK, Iā€™ll accept it. Maybe Iā€™ll buy one of those Minis with the Union Jack brake lights.

If Kier stammer wants to make bold statements about NS why donā€™t he fly up here after the pandemic and tell us all about it.

Iā€™ve got as much energy for Kier as he has for his people & I actually gave him a chance, fkn asshole.

https://twitter.com/MrJunkerBarlow/status/1372856375047548932

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