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Kinda worth unrolling that thread:

Now - is it inherently antisemitic to say something untrue about the state of Israel? By my measure, no. I feel where criticism of Israel becomes antisemitic is a) where they are held to a higher standard than other countries, probably not the case here and (don’t yell yet)

B) where falsehoods about the state of Israel are rooted in long-held antisemitic tropes. Still with me? OK so here’s where we need some more context. There is an age-old blood libel trope where historically Jews have been accused of secretly orchestrating disasters 4/

I think, given that the accusation is demonstrably false, given that there is a widespread far-right conspiracy theory that Jews are trying to start a race war & given that there have been multiple incidents of Jews as a collective being blamed for anti-Black racism… 5/

…that the surrounding context makes a conspiracy theory which is on the surface of it about Israel much more likely to be rooted in antisemitic sentiment. Phew. So given that I just had to explain all of this, could RLB have been expected to know this? 6/

(Brakes squealing) whoah, whoah, whoah, what? What conspiracy theory? Here’s what Peake says in the interview:

As we speak, Black Lives Matter protestors are out on the streets after yet another killing of an unarmed black man, George Floyd, by police.

“I don’t know how we escape that cycle that’s indoctrinated into us all,” continues the 45-year-old. “Well, we get rid of it when we get rid of capitalism as far as I’m concerned. That’s what it’s all about. The establishment has got to go. We’ve got to change it.” Born in Bolton to a lorry driver father and care worker mother, Peake is strident and expressive; if religion wasn’t anathema to her, she’d be perfect in the pulpit. “Systemic racism is a global issue,” she adds. “The tactics used by the police in America, kneeling on George Floyd’s neck, that was learnt from seminars with Israeli secret services.” (A spokesperson for the Israeli police has denied this, stating that “there is no tactic or protocol that calls to put pressure on the neck or airway”.)

That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s not a theory at all! It’s an apparently inaccurate claim about the specifics of a real phenomenon (Israeli security services training US cops), predicated on the assumption that Israel’s approach to protestors etc is worthy of criticism. That’s not antisemitic.

As I see it, Peake’s statement is being stretched unrecognisably out of shape so it can constitute a ‘conspiracy theory’ — presumably tricking American cops into murdering black people or whatever — so that Long-Bailey’s retweeting the article containing it can be construed as antisemitic. And this Gibbs person continues:

At this point, there is no excuse for her not to know better. And yes, this decision is partly political, but it’s also of her own making. RLB was closely tied to the Corbyn project, which caused so much pain for so many Jewish people across the political spectrum

Yeah I should say so. Still not seeing much criticism of Peake, or of the Independent. I suppose they debunked the claim in the article itself, strange how Long-Bailey’s not being praised for retweeting that bit of it, though. Bollocks. Transparent stitch-up.

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That was a while coming lol, congrats.

:trophy: Congrats :clap::clap::clap::confetti_ball::confetti_ball::confetti_ball:

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https://mobile.twitter.com/policescotland/status/1276522258874368001

Six people have been stabbed during a major ongoing incident at a hotel on West George Street.

Armed police officers currently attend the scene where the road has been closed off.


The Scottish Police Federation, which represents rank and file officers, posted on Twitter: "We are aware of reports a police officer has been stabbed in an incident in #Glasgow city centre.
Man has been shot dead by police after an incident in Glasgow
A large police presence shut down West George Street this afternoon.
The incident is believed to have taken place inside the Park Inn Hotel.
Six people have been taken to hospital, including an officer who was stabbed.
Police have confirmed the incident is now under control but have urged the public to stay away.

What’s the word on the street?

The Park Hotel is just up from Glasgow Central Station and was either housing asylum seeker’s or homeless people, Asylum seeker’s is what’s being reported on twitter.

I think there’s atleast 1 dead atm :confused: + The suspect.

It’s a horror scene in the hotel, going by reports. Blood all over the the reception and lift.
Unconfirmed atm…

https://mobile.twitter.com/ConnorGillies/status/1276532581689954304

More to follow…

Fuckkk

https://mobile.twitter.com/lindajsinclair/status/1276527078800871425

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Foxtrot_Cop/status/1276515528845254657

This seems pretty consistent with the other tweets going around of the scene outside the hotel… There footage of injured people getting treatment just outside the hotel, do not share this atm.

https://mobile.twitter.com/h24news_uk/status/1276543018317885441

One hundred asylum seekers currently reside in the West George Street hotel where an attack took place earlier this afternoon, it has been confirmed.

The Kurdish Scottish Association has confirmed around 100 asylum seekers were residing in the hotel at the time of attack.

All Zada, of Kurdish Scottish Association, said: “There are around 100 asylum seekers in the hotel.”

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Sickening.

Sun’s oot, Taps aff…Watch till the end :wink:

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Apparently some of us Brits need reminding what a park is.

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Super Saturday is going to be something I’m sure. Got invited to an outdoor bbq/poker which I’m giving a swerve to - shame as it’s a great crowd and the dealers choice games are wild - maybe next time.

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:clap::clap::clap:

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