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Momentum, the grassroots group set up to support Jeremy Corbyn, has called for street protests and road blockades to stop what it calls a coup.

Laura Parker, the group’s national coordinator, said: “Our message to Johnson is this: if you steal our democracy, we’ll shut down the streets.”

Momentum, together with trade unions, have organised protests in Glasgow, Leeds, Liverpool, London, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham, Oxford, Sheffield and York on Saturday and a further demonstration in London next Tuesday when parliament returns.

Parker will be joining an occupation of parliament next week.

She said:

“Eton-educated, millionaire Boris Johnson is stealing our democracy so he can sell off our NHS to big US corporations in a no-deal, Trump-first Brexit.

This is an establishment coup by a tiny, privileged elite who have been eroding our democracy for decades.

Real power doesn’t sit with the Queen or in parliament. It’s with us, the people – and that’s why we need to take action.

There are thousands of us who will join an occupation of parliament and block the roads before we let Johnson close the doors on democracy.

Today we’re going to contact all Momentum supporters and encourage them to protest, occupy and blockade on Saturday.”

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Yes… Thanks for the work you do… Its why I’m posting some Because as you know I’m not a member or involved with them, but thought I’d post some tweets as they seem to be doing there best to avoid this coup…

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Jeremy Corbyn says he will try to “politically stop” Johnson through legislation
The Labour leader has said that parliament will “legislate rapidly” on Tuesday, when it resumes, to prevent Boris Johnson from suspending parliament and a no-deal Brexit.

Speaking to Sky News, Corbyn said: “We will be back in parliament on Tuesday to challenge Boris Johnson on what I think is a smash-and-grab raid against our democracy.

“He’s trying to suspend parliament in order to prevent a serious discussion and a serious debate to prevent a no-deal Brexit.

“What we’re going to do is try to politically stop him on Tuesday with a parliamentary process in order to legislate to prevent a no-deal Brexit and also to try and prevent him shutting down parliament during this utterly crucial period.”

Seems they won’t go no confidence next week, then. Probably sensible given the polls, though they need a mechanism that will work quickly. Haven’t seen any consensus on what that might be but I presume they have some particular plan.

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TIL that some guy I vaguely remember as being the least interesting cast member from The Young Ones is apparently still some sort of public figure.

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‘ello John, got a new motor?’ always comes to mind for me.

'Ow ya diddlin?

Well bloody sod you, then.

Everyone needs a pop up toaster…

It’s the conflation of Zionism with jews in general that’s antisemitic, rather than hating jews per se which really belongs to the far right.

But then there’s also the recent furore over Labour’s initial reluctance to adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism in favour of its own, which was attacked for being less stringent (it’s now adopted the IHRA definition) and various events where people have accused the state of Israel of being Nazi-like etc.which breaches the IHRA definition.

Full story is here A guide to Labour Party anti-Semitism claims - BBC News

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Richard J Evans, one of Britain’s foremost historians of Germany and the Third Reich, has written a piece for Prospect magazine in which he compares present day Britain and the US to Weimar Germany.

He notes there have been signals that a potential vote of no-confidence could be shrugged off with contempt by Boris Johnson.

“If that were to happen, parliamentary democracy would truly be in trouble in this country. This is Britain’s Reichstag Fire decree moment,” Evans writes.

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More protests are being announced. On Tuesday, Ireland-based Brits are scheduled to rally outside the British embassy in Dublin against Brexit and the suspension of parliament, TheJournal.ie reports.

Campaign group Brits Not Out was formed in response to Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament.

“We are calling on the many British nationals who have made their lives in Ireland to join our protest against this outrageous and undemocratic act,” spokesperson Grace Williams told the publication.

“We care deeply about British democracy and the negative impact that Brexit – especially a hard Brexit – will have on our families, friends and communities in the UK. And we care equally about the threat that Brexit poses to jobs, peace and prosperity on this island, where we’ve been welcomed and where are now living our lives.”

Alexei Sayle was one of the funniest stand ups I’ve ever seen.

EDIT: in his heyday (early 80s)

Yeah… When I seen it I thought “Oh Shit, trouble ahead.”

Are we perhaps heading for another Poll Tax revolt, hopefully across the country this time instead of concentrated in London?

It’s always funny when people say rioting and smashing things up achieve nothing, conveniently ignoring the event that precipitated Mrs Thatcher’s demise.

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They did adopt the definition and IIRC never considered not doing so. The furore was over their initial reluctance to include the 11 illustrative examples along with it. A lot of people felt those examples were too open to stifling legitimate criticism of Israeli policy. A lot of people still feel that way, imo.

And when the UK govt adopted the definition, the Home Affairs Committee recommended ‘clarifying examples’ be inserted, too. Didn’t happen in the end, but I don’t recall Margaret Hodge publicly calling anyone a racist over it. Make of that what you will.

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:rofl:

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If a Tory/Brexit Party alliance would likely get a large majority in an election, then surely Boris would be happy to lose a no-confidence motion that would spark that election?