I know conventional wisdom is that VP choice doesn’t matter. And it doesn’t, when you choose a bog standard guy like Tim Kaine, Biden, Quayle, John Edwards. It’s a Futurama John Jackson / Jack Johnson bit.
Now, pick someone that people can get excited about? Baby you got a stew going.
I mean, I know I would vote for the body of Agnew right now
Good thing this place doesn’t really matter
This is gonna have bad optics when Biden rallies have 100 people at the Holiday Inn ballroom
I’d like to think this is true, but is there an actual example of this in modern times?
Build Biden a statue after we win this thing but I don’t think reminding voters he exists is a good thing. Like you said he isn’t going to draw crowds and also isn’t capable of helping or driving enthusiasm at this point.
I’d say the same thing about someone like Nancy. She deserves the highest praise for what she had done and in my mind her legacy will forever be this political move if it works. But stay off of tv and out of campaign events. People don’t like her.
I disagree. Oldies like my step-mother will be glad he’s “given his due” and everyone else will be renewed in their enthusiasm for his replacement (and for the fact that he was replaced).
And if people see that he doesn’t get any crowds, that will just be further confirmation that the torch has long since been passed.
I think there’s definitely a time and place for sort of a Joe Biden thank you/retirement tour. I have no idea if it’s a good idea to do it as part of this campaign or not. My gut says it could be if he can keep it short and sweet, but even then it seems marginal at best.
I think it’s fine to trot Biden out as a mascot. People like Biden, they just don’t want him to be President. Harris does have to be careful about what parts to the Biden Presidency she wants to be part of her own legacy / value prop to voters. But in terms of pure vibes, I think that sending Joe around to chum around with folks is fine, it’s actually probably what he is best at even at such an advanced age.
While this didn’t happen the last couple of times the sitting VP ran for president (since Reagan’s brain was oatmeal, and Bill Clinton had become kryptonite), I think it’s pretty standard operating procedure for the prez to be out there stumping for their VP. It’s just another warm body to help cover more geographic area for the campaign, and tons of people like him just fine. He’ll be plenty of help even if his speeches aren’t gonna be insanely high-energy and inspiring.
My gut says:
Throw a huge Thank You Joe party on the first day of the convention but spend the other days passing the torch.
Try to sign a few bills/ Executive Orders on popular issues where he can make brief remarks targeted to that issue.
A handfull of targeted intentionally small events where he pops into some factory that got funding from the Chips act or a construction project that benefitted from the inflation reduction act.
Joe would be fine on the campaign trail in very small doses.
Him being at almost every event would be far worse than him being at none of them.
Funny funny stuff
My father-in-law sent me that 3rd one yesterday.
I laughed at him saying “that’s the best you have on this guy?” and told him that he really has his pulse on the important issues of today.
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Holy shit are you ever full of yourself. This whole place would be ruined BUT FOR you, and you alone, heroically offering the dissenting opinion.
You aren’t interesting. You aren’t offering novel opinions. There are millions of you out there, and news outlets have decided that opinions like yours are more worthy than a lot of other opinions for diner safaris, etc. We’ve all seen everything you have to offer. Worse, your opinions are immutable and unfalsifiable. You don’t care about data that might show one of your preferred policies isn’t producing the outcome you say it will. You don’t care if one of your preferred politicians does something bad or proposes something you ostensibly didn’t like. Sure, you might offer some token tut-tuts, but nothing changes your vote. You’re barely distinguishable from a chat bot who’s hitched his wagon to the orange guy and his extremely un-Christian policies while maintaining you’re holier than any of the heathens here.
It’s boring. At least the characters in Idiocracy could open up to the idea that plants needed water when they saw plants growing when watered. You’re here repeating your Brawndo advertising for whatever policy or candidate in question no matter what.
Calling education and infrastructure a “burden” is a choice.
