To give you a more serious response than you deserve, no. The whole reason the vibes are good for Walz right now is because he comes off as a good guy who does good shit for regular people and doesn’t apologize for it afterwards. We’ve had 9 fucking years of Orange Man Bad, of catering to centrists, of shitting on leftists, and until a month ago Trump was favored in the election. Moving left is popular. Moving left helps with turnout. And moving left takes the wind out of the fake populist sails of assholes like JD Vance. Catering to leftists will both win elections and result in better shit getting done once elected.
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Hamas sucks ass, but you don’t have to love them to deplore dropping 2,000-lb bombs on the most crowded place in the world with a population that is over half children.
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To paraphrase Chigurh, if your pragmatic anti-marxist market orientation brought you to support the genocide of Palestinians, of what use was the pragmatic anti-marxist market orientation.
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I wish the Palestinians the best and think they have been treated very unfairly by Israel. They should focus really hard on avoiding situations where they encourage disproportionate reprisals by attacking a technologically superior neighbor. I’m sure a lot of tribes and city-states between China and Hungary tried to attack the Mongols, but that wasn’t a good strategic decision for them either.
Your casual use of “the Palestinians” and “they” as if the children dying at the hands of Israeli soldiers and the blast of American bombs had anything to do with this situation shows how little empathy you have for these people and your total disregard for the power dynamics at play here
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Tegan & Sara shows are wild. Lesbians in our 40’s may only leave the house 3 times a year, but, when we do, we go hard.
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I accidentally hit reply on that post about protesting and coalition building, trying to exit out of the post because I was frustrated at how poorly I was explaining various motivations/priorities behind protest that often don’t seem to be considered by folks viewing it from the outside and trying to rate the effectiveness. I’ve done it before much better than I am right now.
I really think there is diminishing returns on disruptive protests, and it’s at this point that so many modern protest movements fail. The time is now to transition to real political action, which is what the Uncommitted folks are actually doing. I know polling shows the majority of Dems want a ceasefire/lasting peace, but the reason you see overwhelming pushback against these disruptions is because normies also want to see real results, and they don’t equate yelling at rallies to actual real results. Instead they just get annoyed that the real purpose of whatever event they are at is being disrupted…it feels like the protesters are wasting others’ time.
I’m sure if the meetings and talks between groups like the uncommitted folks and the Harris team were amplified, so many more people would be on board because like it or not, it’s the way the vast majority of adults think and live their own lives.
You can be angry about this, but at some point have to accept that tactics will have to adjust to be effective. Otherwise, you’re just gonna be accused of this:
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Also a lesson about indulging good-faith actors (the overwhelmingly positive response from most of the dem electorate).
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So essentially, “she deserves it by wearing that dress” line of defense?
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Specifically about children, yes.
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Yes, if “wearing that dress” is murdering people and taking a bunch of hostages. Exactly the same. Israel should have done nothing and simply ceded the land to the Palestinians. It’s only fair and the children would have prospered under the divine guidance of Allah.
TBF, the Japanese had some legitimate gripes before Pearl Harbor. It was still a bad idea.
They probably have motivations a lot closer to your meme than you think. But of course they see utility where you think there’s none and that you’d have to be stupid to see any
I think you gotta do a lot of underpants gnomes stuff to claim the protestors are hurting the uncommitted folks
Also I hope the “you” was general you, as I’m not a protestor and I’m not mad at Kamala. Just questioning if there’s a better response for electoral purposes.
Saying “u = trump” seems suboptimal
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I don’t see how anyone has a “right” to continually disrupt Harris’ speech.
Similarly, if the protestors hold a rally and make speeches, Harris wouldn’t have a “right” to disrupt their speeches either.
That lesson isn’t being talked about enough anywhere.
.0001 of the electorate even know the protest happened. Acting like it is going to derail vibes or the election is silly imo.
Maybe you should do a well thread or have a mod pin your posts to a single “read only” thread. I for.one, would like to understand your ideology. I know I’ve read posts of yours that made me think you’re a closet Trumper. Lately, the stuff I’ve read of yours seem to make that almost impossible
It’s much easier to think the worst of you because no matter how disgruntled you may be about Biden or the Democrats, it’s hard to find the logic that there is any scenario where things would be better under Trump. So it’s kinda like you’re threatening to detonate a suicide vest and doom us all because your pet concerns aren’t being addressed to you satisfaction
I do understand it’s a strategy and you’re not the only one to employ it. I’ve definitely considered it. But no one has ever explained it to me in a way that makes any sense. Of course the slaughter of thousands of kids in Gaza is completely barbaric and unacceptable under any circumstance. But we should throw women under the bus because of it? We should allow trans people to be denied their right to exist and be ostracize to the point where suicide is preferable? Or doom younger people to the hells of climate change?
So yeah… I’d be lying if I didn’t admit I’ve had to bite my tongue after reading a post of yours. But I’ve come to believe that you’re an intelligent, thoughtful, albeit complicated poster who’s perhaps thinking on a level I don’t get and I’d like to understand it
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