Kamala / Walz 2028

They have nothing.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1821349771434438689

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I will say I am not a fan of his ear tug addiction.

@skydiver8 I really just meant it as can’t there be a better answer, like if we take all emotion out of it, and even all morality or opinion of the situation in the Middle East, and just approach it purely from a standpoint of losing the least votes

I dunno, maybe there’s not

I sort of expected the pros surrounding her to prepare her with something different. But maybe they prepared her with this and that’s the best we can do. I don’t know

Nothing. Absolutely nothing (that’s reasonable). It’s problematic if you do nothing and problematic if you treat them like an authoritarian.

BTW, here’s the clip of Kamala’s response to the protest, which set me off (not the response, the protest). I’m sure some here are in favor of the protestors over Kamala, though I’m not aware of any peace efforts of Hamas. They just elevated the architect of Oct. 7 to be their political leader. (Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/world/middleeast/yahya-sinwar-hamas.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU4.FVdQ.GD5qmJyKLneN&smid=url-share)

https://x.com/JoshuaPHilll/status/1821342048923844884

that is the third response. Her first two were along the lines of “i hear you” and letting them go for a bit.

Call me a sweet summer child, but i really want there to be a middle ground here, like AQ says. I want there to be a response that they’ll accept in the moment. Unfortunately, I think you’re actually right.

I’m also of the mind that what was done by the uncommitted group prior to the rally is much more effective, doesn’t make 30,000 people hate you, and might actually get some movement on the issue.

I didn’t know this, and that changes a lot.

The main thing I was coming with is that it seems like we know “ah, so you want what Trump wants” isn’t the optimal response. But maybe we don’t know that? I dunno

THIS

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Protests often don’t prioritize coalition building or cq

Wait I thought Hamas literally accepted a proposed peace deal, and Israel turned it down because they want the ability to bomb Palestinians whenever they want in perpetuity

Also anti-genocide protestors may have factored in the campaign’s decision to go with this seemingly universally-likable Midwestern left-ish guy who may manage to pull all coalitions together for this election. But tell us more about how terrible they are.

link?

At this point it seems to be Simplicitus launching a battle-royal against every leftist on the forum for some inexplicable reason, and the rest of us just wanting to extend the honeymoon a few more days.

I think the honeymoon will be much longer. Winning the election has nothing to do with leftists, it has to do with convincing non-political uneducated “normies” to vote for Kamala because Trump and JD’s vibes are bad. (The election for them is like me voting for the MVP of India’s cricket league.) I think the more Kamala talks about God, country, and the evils of socialism (I consider myself a socialist), the better.

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They are so, so pathetic and desperate.

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Idk spend more time googling and less time being an ass
It’s all moot now since Israel assassinated their lead negotiator or whatever but I recall at least two instances in the past few months of Hamas accepting peace and Israel rejecting

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What does attacking leftists have to do with convincing normies to vote for Kamala?

In my fantasy world we’re all a big mostly gruntled tent until November.

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simp’s contempt for leftists runs much deeper and is much stronger than any one presidential campaign. A chance to shit on The Stupid People can not be passed up just because it’s election season.

“We need more mathematicians and fewer bartenders.”

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There are different versions of socialism. I’m a “pragmatic” anti-marxist market oriented socialist who believes in tax and spending to distribute resources in order to promote the common good. How to best balance tax and spending with a market economy is an empirical question that is highly contingent on the technological landscape at any given time. FDR wanted a chicken in every pot. We now have that and much, much more thanks to the market, but we also have excessive inequality due in part to insufficient taxation.