When’s the last time Joe had anybody like an Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias or Michelle Goldberg on to talk politics?
okay MSNBC, CNN, and most main stream news have some pretty despicable guests (I’d argue many worse than who Rogan has on) including the same ones you posted but Rogan doesn’t even try and sell his podcast as a news podcast or something like that
edit: even your examples are funny, one is a US congressman and one has his own media network and somehow this shows how bad or stupid Joe is and is spreading bullshit?
It truly is bizarre to hate someone because they like talking about psychedelic drugs and hunting more than fucking healthcare. Yes, he talks about his hobbies and job more than he talks about healthcare reform. That’s true of almost everyone.
I’m confident that doesn’t describe a single person here.
Maybe it’s a generational or geographical thing, but no one my age (mid 30s in OKC) reads the NYT or cares what any “mainstream” media has to say about Hillary’s email server. A ton of them listen to Joe Rogan and hear 4 hours of Alex Jones uncut.
I don’t think the NYT swung the 2016 election. I think Facebook and people like Rogan platforming disinformation about Hillary straight up having people murdered played a much larger role.
I’m not wasting my day on a KEEEEEEEEEEED derail. Joe Rogan is a deplorable piece of shit and has a massive platform that is a definite net negative on society. End of story. Fuck off.
And all I’m saying is that he doesn’t support all the stuff the demE hates, you’re making that leap because he hates identity politics and you hate identity politics, but if you think he believes in democratic socialism you are grossly mistaken.
Whenever he had Kyle Kulinsky or that Pacman guy on? I find both those guys insufferable so I don’t listen to those shows. He had Krystal Ball on a few months ago although she dragged along a conservative so that probably doesn’t count. But as you know only maybe 10% or fewer of his guests are political.
I have a long-standing dislike of the bro culture that Rogan represents that predates Bernie going on his show.
Are you going to argue that there is no such thing as bro culture or that Rogan is not representative of it?
NYT probably does more damage because people trust it as an supposed unbiased paper of record.
This is exactly why Joe Rogan should not be a topic of conversation.
I don’t know who Kyle Kulinsky is (back of the brain guess: Parkland shooting survivor?). Krystal Ball has rebranded as a Bernie person, which is fine, my point is, you don’t find any high profile shitlibs on his podcast, like ever. Maybe they get invited and don’t come, which is on them, but it’s a curious vacuum that he hasn’t had anybody on making a case for Biden, has he?
Kulinski = Young Glenn Greenwald, minus the veneer of journalism. Also has God awful facial hair.
Kulinsky is like a bernie bro youtube guy. I think Pacman supports Biden but like I said they’re both insufferable so I never watch them.
I mean there has to be some kind of hook for Joe Rogan to invite a liberal on his podcast. Has to be an independent youtube guy or a contrarian like Greenwald or Taibbi. Something interesting, he’s never going to invite some Democratic apparatchik on to shill for Biden. I could see him invite Yglesias on because Joe might read his new book, but he’d never have him on to just talk about politics.
She used to be a standard MSNBC Democrat, I’m not casting aspersions I’m just saying.
You’re using “bro culture” to mean something that is unambiguously bad. It doesn’t have to be that way. Bro culture will exist as long as men do but it absolutely doesn’t have to carry the toxic connotations it does now. That’s one of the reasons I was so pleased when Rogan endorsed Bernie.
What if I want it be that way?
I also despise libertarians more than Victor hates the Democratic establishment.
You can label the deep misogyny and the footsie-playing with transphobia however you want, but it doesn’t become any less toxic because the guy espousing it is on your team.
My point was that you can be a “bro” and a good person. Those people already exist and creating more of them would be a good thing. There aren’t set in stone tenants of National Brocialism that must be adhered to.