I think you need to trust bob barr, he is an upstanding man raised by an honorable book writing father.
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So those photos of Ghislaine Maxwell were photoshopped. What that means, if anything, your guess is as good as mine.
The medical examinerâs report hasnât been released yet.
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I mean, I think suicide is the most likely scenario by a pretty wide margin, but also lol at the idea that the medical examiner is the one incorruptible piece of the justice system.
Iâm still on team Epstein-got-exactly-what-he-wanted-just-like-always.
Inside Edition is a trashy TV show featuring celebrity gossip and sensationalist true crime garbage. And theyâre reporting that some other person claims there may be evidence of doctored photos.
Thereâs more details at the Daily Beast here:
Thereâs been some back and forth but it does seem that the photos are faked. Thereâs an ad in a bus shelter for a film. The Daily Mail spoke to the advertising company who run that ad space. It has never contained such an ad. The ad was inserted to make the photo look contemporaneous.
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Whatever. The point is, it confirms my previously held views, and also the NY medical examiner, who I have literally never in my life previously had the occasion to think about, is an unimpeachable authority whose credibility could only be questioned by people with diagnosable mental illnesses.
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Itâs been reported that the feds might be after Maxwell so presumably the photos were aimed at creating confusion about her whereabouts. This is such a bizarre story top to bottom. Iâm provisionally prepared to accept that Epstein killed himself, pending actually seeing the examinerâs report, but it would help if anything associated with this case was ever normal rather than deeply and inexplicably weird all the time.
If I were the feds Iâd check Nashville, Norway, Bonaire, and Zimbabwe.
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Yeah, the number of people required to pull of a murder conspiracy is, what, 2? One billionaire outside the prison pays off one guard to use a standard issue prison bed sheet (or woven paper sheets or whatever it was that Epstein was ultimately found hanging from) to strangle him and stage it to look like a hanging. Medical examiner isnât in on it but canât find conclusive evidence of foul play. The end.
There are some other ways involving more people, but it doesnât have to be much more complicated than that. We certainly havenât gotten any evidence to rule that out, and even something like extensive and vivid documentation of hanging injuries vs. strangulation injuries to show how Epsteinâs look that much more like hanging (if such documentation even exists and is conclusive enough for an expert medical examiner to be able to tell) doesnât figure to be conclusive to non-experts. As such, holding a probability hierarchy of:
He killed himself as described because of prison incompetence > he killed himself as described due to the opportunity granted by the orders of an outside party >> he was whacked by someone inside the prison > âa reasonable doubtâ >>>>>>>>> heâs still alive and the whole thing with the body is a charade.
Jet fuel cant melt steel beams
Still curious how you managed to get your hands on that ME report. Pretty impressive tbh
But what about tower 5 and witnesses saw explosions before impact
I read a blurb on the back of the 9/11 investigation report book and am now a qualified conspiracy theory debunker.
I mean really itâs just wild speculation at this point, thatâs all Iâm saying.
What we know is he attempted suicide before. He is now dead by what appears to be suicide. The medical examinerâs office has concluded this as well (and no we dont need to see the physical fucking report to believe they concluded this, dumbass)
Why not wait for more facts in the case to appear before jumping to all these crazy conspiracies? Yea a lot of things are POSSIBLE. But some infinitely more likely than others, and by far the most likely, based on the available evidence, was that Jeffrey Epstein died by his own hand. Whether he was helped, encouraged, or had a few eyes look the other way for a while while he did it - ok speculate away, but does it really matter?
Anything beyond this is just absurd to me.
It matters quite a bit whether someone in law enforcement or elsewhere in the federal government helped facilitate Epsteinâs death! It wouldnât matter much if some other prisoner murdered Epstein because his crimes were so monstrous, but if his death was helped along by someone in government, youâd certainly want to know more about why they did it.
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My vote is on the lizard people
You said that there was nothing in the report that could dispute the MEâs conclusions, so, uh, seems reasonable to point out that no one has actually seen the report. But sure, Iâm the dumbass.
Why not wait for more facts (like the MEâs report or the DOJ investigation) before yelling at the conspiracy theorists?
Thatâs what I am doing and why until now I havenât commented much in this thread. Just the paths some of you are going are beyond absurd.
And by the way there are way more important things going on than this stupid off-shoot of a disaster presidency. Some pedophile that enabled other powerful pedophiles dies in a mysterious manner. Ok. Even if he didnât, what happens? These people are never going to jail, they run the world. Iâd save the frothiness and mental energy for the hundreds of prepubescent children that have had their parents ripped away right in front of them, but thatâs just me.