Lol at “more civilized” but that is exactly my point. The affluent have a fine relationship with the police. It’s those without power who are being oppressed.
knew you couldn’t manage not to latch on to 1 questionable word choice, so I amended it
you’re so predictable and fucking *******
Edit: Smacc25
@Rivaldo less of the silly name calling brother, please… Its a emotional time for all.
vast majority of communities
I mean there are millions of protesters in all 50 states in the middle of a deadly pandemic who disagree with you. (not about me being fucking stupid I’m sure plenty would agree with that).
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you guys have at it… continue to save the world with your fresh perspective on things unsolved for millennia
ty for the support.
lol bootlickers
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far more agree with me, dunce-cap
52% alone were in favor of military intervention, what does that suggest about the more nuanced aspects?
you guys are wrong, you’re damn near always wrong… but keep stroking each other itt
it feels good
Millions of people stand up and say ‘hey we keep getting murdered, this is a problem’ . You respond with ‘well actually…’, and we’re the clowns? Jlawok.jog
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No your wrong, In a lot of ways…
I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH, JUST HOW WELL THIS HAS WORKED.
Ask any glaswegian.
American police chiefs have been to Scotland to learn new techniques in how to avoid shooting violent suspects. … Former hostage negotiator with the Boston police department, Chuck Wexler, brought the team across the Atlantic in an attempt to cut the use of fatal force.31 Jan 2016
Scots Police Teach US Cops How To Avoid Gun Use | UK News | Sky News.
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Have you ever opened a history book? Groups with power terrorizing those without power is the status quo for the entirety of human civilization.
Early intervention Edit
A key part of the VRU’s work is developing early childhood initiatives that support parents and those involved in teaching young children. These initiatives aim to give children skills that will keep them from becoming involved in violence later in life.
The VRU has given evidence to government finance committees on preventative spending, urging government support for parenting programmes and life skills development programmes as a way to reduce violence in the long run.
The unit has been involved in implementing the sobriety bracelets (SCRAMx) used in the US to tackle binge drinking and alcohol use generally.[10][11][12]
My area and it has worked like no one thought it could…
In 2008 the VRU set up its gangs initiative, the Community Initiative to Reduce Violence (CIRV),[6] in the East End of Glasgow. The VRU’s approach was modeled on anti-crime techniques developed by Gary Slutkin.[3] Using a partnership approach that includes Police Scotland, Social services in Scotland, Education Scotland and other entities, the initiative counters gang activity through operational activity, diversion projects, and help with careers, education, and anger management. By 2011, more than 400 young men had joined the initiative.[7]
The unit works closely with the Medics Against Violence charity,[8] The medics intervene with secondary pupils, educating on the risks around violence and its consequences. Together with the VRU the medics also provide training to dentists to intervene in domestic violence while the patient is in the dentist’s chair.[9]
As of 2019 the Violence Reduction Unit was led by director Niven Rennie[20] after VRU co-founder and former director Karyn McCluskey became the new head of Community Justice Scotland.[21][22]
As of 2017 the VRU currently runs a number of programmes:[13]Navigator (VRU) aims to stop the revolving door of violent injury in our hospitals. The programme engages with patients at a moment when they may be open to breaking free from the challenges trapping them in a cycle of violence. The programme was launched at Glasgow Royal Infirmary in 2015 with two Navigators based in the emergency department. Following success at GRI, Navigator was expanded to include the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh and the team was increased to four. Navigators complement the work of medical staff by engaging with patients who have been affected by violence. Using a wide range of contacts with services outside the emergency room the Navigators offer support to help patients change their lives. The aim is to break the cycle of violence for the individual and ease the pressure that violence places on the NHS.[14][15] The VRU also runs Braveheart Industries which in 2016 launched the Street & Arrow food truck based in Glasgow’s Mansfield Park. The truck serves up second chances to former offenders offering them a route back into the labour market and a life free from violence.[16][17][18][19]
Niven Rennie, director of Scotland’s VRU, said that a key element of the unit’s early work was stop and search, a controversial policy: “you can’t have enforcement without search … you have to stop people dying before you can start making improvements, and then prevention comes after that”.[4]
Any want a history of gang violence should look up Glasgow gangs and with how violent they used to be, the whole of the East and North was plagued by gangs for 100’s of years, up until 2005, the difference in just a short few years has been tremendous.
I’ve had more friends die by the knife than any other cause, it’s so fucking bad here that the expected life span is MEN born in Glasgow’s deprived east end will die nine years before men born in India. And male children born a 15-minute drive away in affluent Lenzie can expect to live 28 years longer. A World Health Organisation report out yesterday revealed life expectancy for a male child born in Calton, Glasgow , was just 54.29 Aug 2008 when the average is 71.6 years for men
With a population of 1.2 million in greater Glasgow, life expectancy at birth is 71.6 years for men, nearly seven years below the national average of 78.2 years , and 78 years for women, over four years below the national average of 82.3.
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In Iraq, life expectancy is 67.
In Iraq, life expectancy is 67. Minutes from Glasgow city centre, it's 54 | Health | The Guardian.
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not interested, guys. return to your regularly scheduled jerk session, absent any dissent, and save the world!
I’ve heard this argument that rich people need a strong, racist police force to protect their property values and it really doesn’t make any sense.
If there wasn’t a strong police force than poor people would be robbing the Kardashians houses?
We have already seen that the police can’t/don’t prevent mass rioting/looting.
The police unions are currently functioning as an organized crime syndicate They extort local government. They offer very little - it is like a religion - people give to the church because it makes them feel good - the same way we extol the police.
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While there are Stephen Miller’s in this world actively rigging the system I think the main point is that the system is inherently rigged and even with (what people think) are “good” intentions every action tends to favor the riggage.
Take income inequality, once you get debt it is very hard to get out. You have no access to the stock market. Any little health hiccup puts your further behind and in debt generationally behind. By definition once you get ahead it’s easy to accumulate wealth via property and stocks and concentrate that wealth over time.
Street policing does the same with the poor. Add on the not very transparent factor of race and you get a concentration of incarceration and unemployment in minority communities.
Failing to recognize these factors and put in corrective action is where we fail. For everyday commerce, capitalism is fine. But for public goods and public policy it’s a disaster. Until we address the underlying causes of being poor/disadvantage we will be stuck in this endless cycle. Ending Mass incarceration, generational wealth, and medical poverty seem like good places to start. I have no clue how to change hearts and minds around race other than refusing to accept race based disadvantages and punish those that practice it. We have to hope the zoomers are better than boomers/x-ers.
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I mean are we not supposed to disagree with you? What type of interaction were you looking for? Non sarcastic question. You already believe we are an out of touch bunch of crazies. That seemed to be the attitude you came in with, so as a non fucking stupid person you must have realised you were going to get push back on some of your statements. What should I have done here?
Rich white people want to live around other rich white people. They don’t want undesirables moving into their neighborhood, driving their property values down because then other rich white people won’t want to buy houses in that neighborhood.
A racist police force is just one way of making minorities feel unwelcome in those places, so that they don’t get so presumptuous as to try to move there.
Sometimes, I wonder if it might be better to just let rich whites segregate themselves, so long as they pay a massive segregation tax that can be used to redistribute wealth to non-whites.
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Still doesn’t make any sense. Poor people can’t afford to move to those neighborhoods regardless of how the police make them feel when they are in the neighborhood - and why would they even be in the neighborhood, anyways?
People are funny… I’ve been physically attacked for dropping off in rich areas because I had the audacity to drive in and drop of 1 of there neighbours.