Healthcare USA #1

For (tens of?) millions of Americans the wait time is infinite because they can‘t afford any healthcare.

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Damn the have some amazingly bad arguments there.

Like factoring in public research, its nonsense, except we let private companies steal it for a pittance and then make wagon loads of money.

I feel like golf is the next CTE frontier.

Also

https://refuge.nolayingup.com/t/a-thread-about-the-american-country-club-model-and-nothing-else/1238/1131

I would agree but in 2020 it is a fierce competition for worst. As for that thread a few people making good arguments, a few complete knotheads.

Not that anyone was thinking about this, but update: everything’s fine. We had a cancer scare, so we we’ve been on edge for a week or two. But the report came back today and it’s all good. Happy weekend.

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Good news!

VERY good news for you and yours.

This sort of stuff definitely cues you in on what stuff really matters. I’m happy for you.

MM MD

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Bonus: I made the conscious decision not to use my “one time” and save it for an actual cancer battle. So I still have my “one time.” I’ve never used it, not in poker, not in life.

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So, profit motivated health care…

One thing to consider is that most of healthcare is administered to old people. Often very old people. Often old people in distress and perhaps with diminished ability to deal with it and perhaps drugged up.

I’m dealing with some stuff with my mom now and most of the people at the Kaiser Hospital are sufficiently removed from the business side that it isn’t obvious how it’s impacting care. There is a little member services stuff, but she has a very good plan, so not that much. But, dealing now with trying to get some in-home care from outside providers … omg it’s immediately apparent that the people you are talking to are salespeople and it’s a pretty hard sell. Fortunately (in this case) my mom is the kind of older person who sometimes quite suddenly will tell someone to go to hell if they look at her the wrong way instead of the type of older person who just goes along with salespeople. Anyway, perhaps part of why some kinds of health care are ridiculously overpriced is the same kind of reason that vinyl siding and door-to-door vacuums are often ridiculously overpriced.

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Yeah, I’m starting my one time on Monday thru the next 6 weeks. Unless I already used mine up early Jan cause everything went really well. In which case I’ll hope for a bonus one time, if needed.

One time.

MM MD

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This thread should be required reading for anyone that thinks our current for profit healthcare system is just and moral.

https://twitter.com/dubarrypie/status/1231669876122505216?s=21

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Girlfriend will be losing her insurance soon and will be forced onto the exchange (VA, if it matters). I just took a cursory glance at what is available to her and it reminded me how absolutely awful this all is. There is no chance she’s going to be able to afford this given her current employment situation (working for private practices as a “contractor” on her way to becoming a licensed therapist, still a year to go). Are there any alternatives other than literally marrying her so that she can get on my company insurance? I’m not looking forward to this conversation, nor the amount of math she is I am going to have to do to figure out which plan is actually best for her.

https://twitter.com/richardhine/status/1232051958867005440?s=21

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Virginia recently passed the Medicaid expansion. Also, the GOP repealed the individual mandate with their tax law.

Vote against him every chance I get. Such a bad human being. He favors people not having healthcare.

Wraps back into the argument of how you going to pay for it. It’s a huge logic hole for someone to say “How you going to pay for it” while pretending affordable coverage already exists. Because if the later is true the former is not a legitimate question.

She’s above the Medicaid threshold but good point, tbh we hadn’t considered just not insuring. Not sure we could stomach that risk but it’s an option.

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:roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

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The “backup chef” one struck a chord. Took my kid to the emergency room in November, got a bill for $3,000 after insurance paid $1,000-something.

We’ve gotten two other bills for the x-ray and some other shit this month. They only amounted to a little over $100, but for fuck’s sake.

What’s the cheapest plan on the exchange? It may only serve as a catastrophic plan, but it’s still better than nothing if you can afford it.

My husband and I have been uninsured since last year. The year before, we signed up on the “Marketplace” (with only one company to choose from), thinking we’d get a tax subsidy later. The shitty coverage was about 900/mo for two rail-thin ~30yo nonsmokers who hadn’t been to the doctor’s office in over a decade.

We set up automatic payments from our bank account, which were getting paid the first few months. Apparently Blue Cross decided not to withdraw one of the middle months, which we didn’t notice. So we were only technically covered for 11/12 of the year, therefore when I filed our taxes, not only didn’t we receive a subsidy, we owed a hefty penalty.

So I decided I’d literally rather die than give Blue Cross another dime of my money. I spent a couple days researching the scammy short-term plans outside of the Obama-place and found one that seemed like it wasn’t a total scam. When I called them up, they said my state recently outlawed their plans. So I said fuck it, no insurance, let’s gamboool. Knock on wood, no catastrophes yet.

Btw, I know Obamacare / Romneycare was a net positive, but prior to it, that $900/mo plan would have cost us $200/mo. I for one am excited for a full Bern-It-Down measure.

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I thought you could go 30 days w/o insurance.

You can call a navigator to help you figure it out. They are free, the contact info is on the main website.

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