Anyone can see I was referring to the first bolded part, not the second as should have been obvious to you from my comment about Ireland.
But it’s ok, carry on with your standard lowlife tactic of trying to smear people as racists.
You can’t be that dense. They were bullet points right next to each other. He said he’d have had no racist connotation for the word, he would have associated ghetto with Warsaw. I pointed it out politely, he handled it like a intelligent human being, we all moved on. Except you. You insist on dying on this hill.
You clearly can.
- As a teenager in Ireland when ghettoblasters were a thing, the term would have had zero racist connotations. I doubt I ever reflected on the ‘ghetto’ part.
And then you in your usual pompous fashion start questioning it.
You’ve now had numerous posts from people in different countries all telling you that ghetto blaster wasn’t seen as a racist term at the time, mainly because the word ghetto wasn’t part of the vernacular.
Sound familiar?
And you’ve had 2-3 times as many people, not all Americans, tell you you’re wrong. A couple have said “Hmm, never realized that, I’ll stop using it.”
Which would have been the right thing for you to do right from the start. 343 posts later you’re still dying on this hill so you can keep using a racist word.
Meanwhile you’ve all had evidence presented to you that ghetto has always had racial undertones.
Last but not least I’m pretty sure you’re the only one who still refuses to acknowledge that just because none of you realized it was racist in the 80s doesn’t mean you should still be using it and defending it today.
But here we are.
Another outright lie.
You’re a privileged fraud with a pretend life. GFY.
I think you two need to put each other on ignore.
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Have you stated that it’s racist and that you will stop using it? If so I offer my apologies, just point me to where you said that.
Post war the Labour government started building council houses and flats (apartment complexes) across the country. This continued with abundance until about 1980 and the advent of Thatcher. These are public housing estates where your landlord is the local council and where the rent’s often paid (or at least subsidised) through state benefits. They’re often self enclosed with one road in and one road out, effectively segregated from the rest of the local area.
There’s definitely a stigma attached to coming from one but it would be predominantly class based rather than racial. Others would often see you as criminally inclined or a scrounger; certainly thick and certainly more prone to violence and drugs. This would be true whether you were called Phil or Shafqat. If someone said “he’s from the estate” the prevailing pejorative image (at least in the north) would be of a white skinhead with a clapped out car and a pile of grimy junk in his front yard/balcony.
Typical council flat:
Typical council house:
You should know, you replied to it recently.
I’m honestly finished with this nonsense. Your constant smear tactics and transparently deceitful bullshit have been a disgrace in this forum, and it was a miles better place when you left for a while last year.
I once got piled on back at the old forum for referring to the Roma people as Gypsies in a conversation about how the word gyped is racist, which of course it is.
But for some reason people piled on me for using the word Gypsy in a respectful conversation, and saying that that usage is also racist. And at that time there was even something called The American Society of Gypsies, or something similar, which I argued meant that they were comfortable referring to themselves as Gypsies and not in the same way the black people use the N word.
Anyway I just did another search and am surprised to see a ton of articles and opinion pieces that using the word Gypsie to refer to Roma in the US is now frowned upon.
Hopefully I didn’t unintentionally step into it again with this post.
Many on this site don’t like Sabo, so I don’t think that is the explanation for the difference here.
And to be clear, I disagree with Sabo a ton but I like him just fine.
Funny I feel the same way about you when I read many of your posts. Honestly.
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When I said “don’t like” i mostly meant “has views that don’t 100% align with their own.”
Sabo cosplays a liberal, so he got slack for the multiple lynching comments he made. It’s really that simple. I don’t know jalfrezi’s politics but from the reactions here I’d wager a pretty penny they don’t align with the people dogpiling him.
It’s just how this site works.
This ain’t it.
Because I still haven’t seen you admit “ghetto blaster” is racist or even racially insensitive, as far as I know your position on this is still…
Which was followed by a slew of typical defenses of racist shit.
You’ve been lying constantly in this thread, and I and others have called you out for it with receipts. Your responses are just to call me a liar with no receipts, while trying to gaslight about what you’ve said, all while refusing to admit the term is racist that I’ve seen (you’ll have my sincere apology if you can show me a quote of you admitting it is racist) and continuing to die on this hill.
Anyone paying attention will see it for what it is, and the only thing saving you is that we’ve been so in the mud that a lot of people might not have paid attention. So your reputation has that going for it.
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I think you would lose that bet, honestly.
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Then why didn’t you guys get your charmins in a twist over the lynching comments? Far more offensive, far more problematic than the term ghetto blaster. This is just a personal grudge by the people participating in this debate, I don’t see how anyone could possibly argue against that.
Well I wouldn’t lump everybody posting ITT into “you guys” for one thing.
But anyway, people did get pissed and called him out. But it’s difficult to keep an argument going about something when the other party just drops it and doesn’t respond. And from what I recall, Sabo never defended his use of the word against the criticism he received. Or maybe in a post or two at the most.
Even worse - it was pointed out to him multiple times and he continued to use it.
Yes, I agree. He continued to use it multiple times while multiple people pointed it out and he refused to engage in any discussion about it so it kind of died off. If he instead told everybody else that they were the problem and then fired off all kinds of other insults it would probably be ongoing.
There is a stronger parallel between this and the Kobe thread with you than this and the Sabo thing. And I think we’ve all tried to move on from the Kobe thing but it seems that it still bothers you. (And I apologized if I’m wrong and maybe missed some other strong arguments you were involved in. But it feels to me that that’s what you are referencing without actually saying it.)
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