Great American hegemony - our definitions count, yours don't, wherever you are.

Frankly my hopes now about America’s future are unprintable. I just hope the decent ones I’ve met here (ie most) make it out of there if Trump gets in again.

I don’t believe you. You read them, you know exactly what my line is.

I know you’re full of your own self-importance but I haven’t read them all - they’ve been too long so I went on to more interesting things.

I mean exactly how fast do you think I can type?

Negra is Spanish for black. Adding “ita” or “ito” on the end of a number of words in Spanish essentially makes them an endearing term for children.

There’s a huge leap from comparing the same word in the same language to translating words that sound similar phonetically.

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American checking in to say my exposure to the term has only been as a term of endearment in hip hop lyricism.

The difference here is that the term here is an US racist term that the UK adopted. It’s one thing when the the term develops independently of each other with different connotation - like the negro/negrita example. That term was around in Spain long before it became offensive in the US.

Here the term has never not been racist - it means the exact same thing in the UK as it means in the US (a boom box) - it’s just that some claim to be ignorant of the racial origin/connotation of the term. That in itself is fine. What is not fine is when educated of the racist origin of the term, to defend the term and refuse to adjust based on this new information.

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It was nice knowing you - you’ll be hung, drawn and quartered and finally banned by cusepoll within the hour. Serves you right for bringing nuance to the table.

That’s too bad, I even used the extra “u” in honor while explaining how you were not exemplifying any. I also explained how you’ve forever tarnished your reputation in this community, so good job with that.

Just like I’m always going to be the guy who threatened to quit over violent rhetoric (which I’m fine with btw), you’re always going to be the guy who had a complete meltdown when his use of a racist term was called out by someone he didn’t like, then proceeded to trot out every tired argument racists use to defend racism while hurling ad hominems, then calling others out for using ad hominems.

The cherry on top was insisting that if I’d only handled this better from the start, it would have gone differently, only to describe your preferred handling that was… exactly how I handled it.

In fact, since we’re demanding apologies around here, I should probably demand one for that.

That’s primarily how the n-word is used now a days, at least in public. Can jalfrezi incorporate that into his vernacular, too?

Growing up the word ‘ghetto’ wasn’t in anything like regular use and on the whole still isn’t. In ordinary parlance round where I was (Lancashire) I’d have taken it to mean an urban shithole, difficult to escape. Though we’d be much more likely to call such a place an ‘estate’ , ‘slum’ or the aforementioned ‘shithole’.

Taken together the word ghettoblaster would likely be understood to mean “estate-destroyer” or “really loud noise from the shithole machine.” It really wouldn’t have any anti-black connotation to it and you’d call it one no matter if you saw it as an object of desire or an object of derision. It was a cool object because you could destroy your neighborhood with it, and an awful object for precisely the same reason. It seemed an apt moniker so it stuck.

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maybe he’s getting some undeserved flack but this is all stemming from his unfair reading of cuses comment due to his dislike of cuse. He keeps claiming he was called a racist and that’s why he is so defensive but he wasn’t called a racist

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LMAO I made a poll to mock your making a poll, and now I’m cusepoll? You’re funny. You’re still just flailing wildly, hoping to do some damage.

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Thanks dude, but I guess it had to come from a fellow Euro.

It’s interesting how this is lining up. Euros/Brits/Canadians - Yanks.

It’s almost as if the vociferous Americans itt don’t have a clue what they’re talking about when it comes to other countries.

Surely not. I mean they’re all so well travelled.

FYP. Or maybe you just didn’t have time to read those, as if anyone ITT believes you haven’t read every single post.

Obviously. I didn’t know better at the time.

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And “negro” and “colored” went from polite terms for American blacks to borderline slurs in like 30 years.

Does it really need to be blasted to you why his post is a terrible terrible argument (assuming he’s not being sarcastic)?

If you’d just said you found it offensive, I’d have apologised for the offence once I’d realised it was a racist phrase in the US. But no, for you it was racist everywhere and at all times, which is plain wrong as others have pointed out.

Re. my “reputation” - it won’t have changed one iota with people I like and regard here. As I said earlier, there are some smashing Yanks here but also some awful clueless ones, most of whom have congregated here, unsurprisingly.

dude I know you don’t like cuse but he literally did not say it’s racist everywhere and anywhere.

His exact words were

like it’s obvious he is talking about how it is used in America

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I really don’t know, to be honest. You won’t find me pontificating pompously about things I know very little about.

It’s possible it’s a phrase reclaimed by the black community; it’s also possible that he’s wrong, so why not clear the matter up for this old Brit struggling with cultural references he doesn’t get.