The Democrats aren’t going to do a fucking thing and we are going to hand them the House next year and some even on this forum laughed at the WAAF crowd. I wish I’d made a more concerted effort to get out of this country a few years ago. Now my only comfort is that I have a pistol I inherited from my dead mom and some hollow point rounds.
eh? I mean I’m not a waafer at all but isn’t the writing on the wall? Nothing done for the next 13 months and then the GQP takes the house and maybe the senate (which doesn’t matter without the house) and then uncle joe gets impeached… at least 3 times? 20 times? Right? The messaging from McCarthy et al is very, very clear that if they had the house they’d be impeaching Joe right now. And CNN and MSNBC will be breathlessly “reporting on it”.
And thats not to even bring up the fact that if the dems win the executive in 2024, somehow, the house won’t certify it! And then we’re, you know, China. It was a good run bois.
What do you mean nothing got done? Covid bill, infrastructure bill, Afghanistan withdrawal, all of which are allegedly popular. That’s about as much as Obama accomplished in 8 years.
Reread, didn’t say got done, though should have said “nothing will get done from here on out” I guess. and cool dunk bro™
wanna take a $100 “joe biden will be impeached before the end of 2024” bet winner goes to charity of choice, I take yes? reply booked if so. TBH would love to lose this one but I don’t see it happening. Republicans will win the house in 2022 and they’ll impeach Joe for… whatever they feel like.
Anyone who doesn’t recognize that WAAF is delusional. We were fucked the minute it became clear democrats weren’t going to pass voting rights. Every swing state republicans control is going to be impossible to win with voter suppression and insane rules that they can control local dem counties voting rules. Once Republicans win the governorship in PA/Wi/MI it’ll basically be impossible for us to win the executive. Those swing states were INSANELY close, and now Republicans are going disenfranchise millions of people in them. What they’ve already passed is just the start, they will pass a lot more once congress is safely in Republican hands.
Dems will win the house here and there, or the senate, and the presidency, but they won’t have a trifecta for a very, very long time.
I mean we aren’t fucked if you’re fine with how everything is now of course, so it’s all a matter of perspective. If you’re cool with no progress for 1-2 decades and the supreme court legislating from the bench doesn’t worry you, yeah you’re good. For people who want progress though WAAF, it’s dead.
Republican politicians have a free ticket to stay in power for the rest of their lives because their supporters want them to cheat. You don’t think Republicans are going to take that free ticket? With the protection of the supreme court?
Whats going to stop them? Maybe a massive economic collapse under Republican leadership, but I think the propaganda has the hooks in enough at this point they could ride it out blaming dems and trans people.
This is probably close, but it’s not like that’s some big win for Dems. America is stuck in a dynamic now of total denial about their eroding empire, so all these (white) Americans expect to have perpetually increasing standards of living in The Best Country In The World but what’s actually going to happen is perpetual disappointment and confusion about why their hopes and dreams are not realized. My guess is that this doesn’t manifest as a “massive economic collapse”, it’s probably more like a drawn out economic collapse combined with constant chaotic turmoil on the political front as people desperately whip saw around looking for people to blame. When you truly believe that America’s God-given destiny is increasing standards of living for white people, then the only explanation for that not happening is some evil people stealing it from your or stupid people fucking it up. This is ultimately why poor deplorables rally around Republican rage narratives and vote against their self interest - it’s easier for them to tap into their instinctive hatred for non-whites and eggheads to explain their failures. So America’s decline actually helps Republicans politically, notwithstanding all their Red White And Blue propaganda.
The absolute nail in the coffin was the demographics of the 2020 election. Prior to that we all had the hope that once boomers started dying off and demographics changed we would have a massive advantage, but Republicans made massive gains with people 18-55, blacks and latinos. IIRC Biden actually won the 65+ crowd. Facebook rotted everyones brains, and Republicans were experts at digital advertising while the dems simply used it to ask for more money for TV ads.
So there is nothing left to save us, it’s just a slow descent into hell.
I think its a open question of what “sudden” looks like. Is it explosive political violence (a successful Jan 6 attack with dead Senators), a sudden economic catastrophe with widespread financial system failures, a sudden takeover of government by 21st century Nazis, etc. There are a lot of bad outcomes.
I don’t see why any of that would happen. They will legally have a stranglehold on the government. Legally according to our currrent supreme court anyways. They will just elect dumb fascist presidents who constantly throw them red meat and be happy and live in the lie that this is democracy and bathe in the liberal tears of voter suppression and riggage.
The only sudden thing I can think of is the first time they refuse to certify a dem winning, or use the new laws to send their own electors. But that will be legal according to our laws.
They will be happier than pigs in shit, no need to overthrow anything.
I think that’s just the 21st century Nazis scenario. Once they are fully entrenched in power its going to be really hard for them to resist putting political opponents in prison or concentration camps. Nothing owns the libs more than kangaroo courts and prison camps.
I honestly doubt they will want to rock the boat that much, but they will have to worry about being primaried by the people that are campaigning on locking up the rights latest boogymen ( although its almost always women ). If it comes to that hopefully the squad gets the fuck out of dodge.
I think you guys are losing track a bit of who is actually in charge in the US. I agree the trajectory is towards Dems being out of power for a decade or more, but the result of this will not be fascism and concentration camps, it will be open season for corporations. It doesn’t ultimately matter what the base want. What did they actually get - concretely - out of the Trump presidency?
I’m pretty WAAF but you guys are taking this a bit too far. It’s a common error to assume that current trend lines will extend indefinitely into the future.
In real life the first relatively small wave of climate refugees have already started arriving, COVID is ravaging the GOP base, and the amount of discontent among the currently young with capitalism is extremely high.
If the GOP manage to keep the federal government from responding to the needs of the country for another 5-10 years the entire system is going to collapse under it’s own weight. That’s not a good outcome and a lot of people will get hurt, the poor most of all, but there will be something that comes after it and that something is very unlikely to be fascism.
The thing about fascists is that they can’t govern. Period. Fascism is an opportunistic political disease that attacks hosts with weak defenses and if not stopped kills them. The fascism ends with the death of its host.
It’s going to be a shitty couple of decades, but every trend hits resistance and fails at some point. The GOP is already in real danger of wearing out its welcome with the corporations who actually own this country.
If you want to know what’s next watch the corporations. They’re the ones actually calling the shots. They very much do not want the host they are also leaching off of to die.
The fatal flaw in most “won’t be that bad” takes is assuming continued semi-legitimate elections. Once one-party rule is entrenched, you’ll see ever more ridiculous purity tests and purges based entirely on personal loyalty to the party heads.