GOP Insanity Containment 2: This is the Place. This is the Time, Cowboy.

so the river to the sea shit is basically a group that is actively trying to eliminate a group of people from a certain area mad at another group bc they are talking about trying to eliminate a group of people from a certain area? that’s just swell.

Vox has a good article on this and this part was the best explanation I have seen:

“From the river to the sea” has become a set of words where different people have decided that it means different things. It’s usage is basically guaranteed to inflame people on both sides, so that’s how people are using it.

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i’ve fought this fight so hard and so long on the other site…

it was so obvious

It’s incredibly frustrating to see the conversation monopolized by what is essentially a trolling semantic game, with arguments over who really meant what and people deliberately misconstruing what’s being argued for. Just say what you mean and run with that, if you think Israel should be wiped off the map,just say so. If not, stop using slogans that will be construed as such.

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It seems to me that extremists on both sides benefit from the ambiguity.

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and if you want the ‘river to the sea’ people to shut the fuck up while you ‘river to the sea’ them, just say that. bc to me, that’s what is happening. people mad palestinians are TALKING about eliminating israel while cheering israel’s efforts to ACTUALLY eliminate palestinians :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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Just some inane disputes there.

This

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Says more about Congress than it does the phrase

https://twitter.com/rooster_ohio/status/1733205597489598608

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Another version of a singular state — the one envisioned by some activists Vox spoke to who use the “from the river to the sea” phrase — is a pluralistic, secular, democratic one in which Palestinians, Jewish Israelis, and all citizens would live in political equality.

Meaning that Palestinians in Gaza will be Israeli citizens with equal rights?

Yes, also known as a one state solution.

posting here because horseshoe theory is real. Also, possible recruitment opportunity!

https://x.com/CliffConnolly/status/1734587756750196984?s=20

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We meet again, Slighted! Hope you’ve been well. As you know, I was exiled from the “other site.”

Hamas’ ultimate goal is the elimination of Israel. And it has been just that from their inception.

In my opinion:

Hamas should surrender immediately if they really care about the lives they supposedly care about. Hamas started this terrible war. The blood is on THEIR hands.

What a new and refreshing take that has never been put forward before.

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Newsflash, Hamas doesnt care. That doesnt mean we need to cheer on ethnic cleansing.

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Saw this analogy not too long ago. Lets say an older and younger brother get desert, younger brother gets less and gets mad and says to older brother “I’m gonna kill you.” He then hits older brother with a big stick.

Should the older brother be justified in anhilating younger brother with his fists because he is bigger and stronger?