https://twitter.com/hahnscratch/status/1607919456977838080?s=20&t=jrvU5fInQ_z3FcRdKq4JNA
Good thread
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From the article:
" The judge in Riley’s case, a former prosecutor named John McBain, was more credulous. He let Merritt testify as an expert and accepted 911 call analysis on its face. McBain explained his reasoning: Harpster’s course is recognized by the Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards. This, McBain said, was proof of 911 call analysis’ value.
Joe Kempa, the commission’s acting deputy executive director, told me his agency does not technically certify or accredit courses — it just funds them. There is little review of the curriculum, he said, because the agency approves up to 10 courses a day from too many fields to count. Accrediting each would be too hard. As long as a course is “in the genre of policing” without posing an obvious health threat, it will likely be approved for state funds, he said."
The whole article is insanity, but this part is mind boggling. Basically free rein for any grifter to grab as much cash as possible. Accreditation should be a first step in approving training, not a nuisance that they have to sidestep. It’s a sucking cyclone of simpletons from top to bottom. I just absolutely hate everything about justice system culture. It’s always infuriating.
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Also annoying that everyone up and down the chain but especially the guy who ‘invented’ it knew it wouldn’t stand up in court and took steps to try and prevent discovery all the while the ‘inventor’ is saying he can’t divulge his process least it get out and murderers know how to game it. Nothing mentioned of course about inadvertently tossing innocent people in jail
More likely they would count the days until they could shoot someone.
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I’ve considered the idea that only cops with a college degree should be allowed to carry a gun or advance beyond the lower ranks.
Most suburban departments around here would agree with you.
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Facial recognition stuff is inherently racist, is it not? Seems to be my recollection of past issues.
Facial recognition is nuts. Kinda crazy to use it when leaving a country.
I don’t think it’s inherently racist, it’s more that the models are mostly trained on white faces and tend to make a lot more mistakes with POC faces.
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This is going to start happening with DNA, too.
sounds racist
I think it depends on what you mean by “inherently”
As it currently works. Its totally racist. I think everyone agrees with that.
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Until it works differently, sounds racist? I mean, “inherent” would seem to (lol, obv) include the models on which it is based?
“I could not be racist if I had different beliefs” is a totally valid and also nonsense statement?
oh, yeah, for sure, the outcomes are definitely racist
the people selling this technology could make them better if they wanted to, it’s a choice, not a fundamental limitation of the tech
This is certainly true, but I think pvn’s implied definition is reasonable.
Sounds like he is saying that if they fed the AI more POC for training, then it would be better at IDing them. And at some point it would be just as accurate as it is for whites. If that’s true (and I don’t know that it is), then I think it would be accurate to say that it is not an inherent problem with the AI.