From NBA Live '95 to 2K20: An Unstuck 5 Year NBA Dynasty Draft

Does the starting 5 need to be an actual starting 5? Or can I take 8 centers theoretically? And wtf are people already quitting?

It’s your team.

Look what Morey did with Houston. That would’ve seemed an out there hypothetical too.

QUESTION FOR THREAD

Should we continue to have a requirement that you must draft X number of current players? (Previously it was about half current/half historic.)

  • Yes
  • No

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Being gifted the first pick, I was tempted to snapcall what seemed like the obvious answer. The format is a bit different though so I decided to think it through and look for strategies that may not be apparent at first glance.

Basketball is an asymmetrical sport in many ways. First, results tend to skew heavily in the direction of god-tier players, and second, this effect compounds itself when it really matters–the NBA Playoffs. There’s also relative scarcity of players starting their clocks now versus the collection of superstars of years past, and that must be weighed against the possibility of choosing legacy players with shortened careers due to injury, retirement, and even return from retirement followed by another retirement. After weighing these factors and checking the analytics, it became clear to me that the correct answer was to fire up the hot tub time machine and draft the best basketball player of all time:


2008-09 LeBron James

I think cases could be made for different 5-year rolling windows of LeBron. That said, the 2008-09 season performance was particularly incredible and a clear line of demarcation in his career. Based on rate statistics, his 08/09 campaign was the best single season playoff performance of all time [PER 37.4 (2) / WS48 0.399 (1) / BPM 17.5 (1)]. Those are absolutely stupid numbers, their significance muddled by and in spite of a fucking Garbage Pail Kids patchwork supporting cast of Delonte West, Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. I’m tall enough to ride the coasters, I don’t use comic sans, and I don’t pair the GOAT with the JV squad.

In the five consecutive regular seasons from 2008-09 to 2012-13, LBJ led the league in PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, and VORP according to BRef. The 2008-09 season also appears to be a jump in skill acquisition with TS% reaching a new plateau:


And the playoff numbers:

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I think this draft was a much better idea as just a draft of current players at their current age and you get them all for the next 3-5 years as the criteria.

My logic was the following:

  1. That would be a repeat of what we did last in TZ 6 months back or watev. This was intended to be a draw for those posters as well. Talk over the last few months regarding doing another draft was on switching it up and doing historic stuff (or salary cap, auction, etc) as we have periodically in the past.

  2. This group of drafters seemed not as hardcore on day to day current NBA, you even put yourself in that group:

So I figured expanding it to the past 25 years would have crossover appeal. I also put it parenthetically in the signup thread title and you didn’t comment on it at the time. Only comment specific to it (other than AiM) was:

Sorry.

In if not too late

@me if I’m in

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You should be able to take my spot if someone else hasn’t already

@Nicholasp27

You’re in. I still remember our Dwight, Klay, Ty Lawson team

@wiper didn’t respond so I’ll slot you in meb’s spot. Sorry I spaced @'ing you initially. @wiper can def still join (as can any).

@NotBruceZ is up

In the future, if anyone wants to do a daunting historical draft that forces you to make obscure picks, let’s draft full 15-man rosters with tight salary caps. Can create some stock formula to generate the salaries.

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I found that cardboard cutout pic rummaging through the gallery on my phone a few days ago. Took it at a Gamestop outside of Cleveland when I was visiting there a couple years ago.

That’s amazing.

2k had the same issue with Kyrie on the cover when he ended up in Boston at the end of the summer.

I’m not going to go much into the stats for this pick because we should know the cases the top players. In this case, he’s an MVP-caliber player with value on both sides of the ball who I am taking for his age 25-29 seasons. And I’m not even including a season in which he won MVP.

The main reason I am taking him is because of the requirement that you need eight players whose windows start with the current season. There are only so many first-round caliber picks who fit that. That’s what puts him ahead of other people I considered. He’s the best player this (regular) season according to WS/48 and BPM and second in VORP. He’s going to be in the conversation for the next four seasons.

I’m taking 2019-2020 Giannis.

@DodgerIrish is up.

Great current player pick

Ok, I tried to roll with sentiment on the fly but I understand if everyone isn’t reading every post.

The guy who drafted 1st wants to keep format as is and guy who drafted second picked based on that criteria.

We’ll go 9 rounds. Require 5 current players, 4 historic allowed. No coach.

@Lawnmower_Man @NotBruceZ @JonnyA @bode @mjiggy @Yuv @anon92450360 @Nicholasp27 @anachronistic

I’m assuming @Marksman isn’t going to be drafting. (I’ll delete his team soon enough if he or no one else jumps in.)

10 teams isn’t too bad.

Stick that stuff in the OP.

This isn’t Nam.

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I did when I made my post above.

That was in the thread w/ a poll.

Can’t put something in the OP that hadn’t been decided. Everyone minus jiggy that I’d heard from was saying it was too many rounds.

This has been pretty thankless.

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