LEAN IN!!!
She’s a billionaire. Just fucking stop, Sheryl.
Jimmy didn’t pay her before he fell asleep. 
She couldn’t just steal his wallet?
My only thought is maybe try making hypothetical names a little more divergent? Jimmy and Johnny ain’t doing me favors on who’s who along the way.
The girl and Jimmy had sat and took in a few drinks, then walked back to the hotel room where my other friend was outside sitting having a few smokes and didn’t even realise the girl was back & as it turned out she didn’t steal anything
My other mate is pretty shrud when travelling & it was him that taught us always to stash your gear properly. Or in the main safe. When abroad.
It may also have been that Jimmy sent the girl away before going into the hotel😂 who knows lol.
I thought my memory might be bad so I went on a deep dive through wikipedia and the relationship between 24 and TWAT (The War Against Terror) and it’s fascinating. The show premiered early November 2001 --that’s some fortuitous timing. By season 4 (2005), the show developed a story arc where our hero has to torture the fuck out of brown people to stop a ticking nuclear time bomb. Mid-2004 is when the Red Cross and the NYT start printing stories about torture in Guantanamo Bay. 24 won an award at the 2006 Emmys. There was probably a lot of luck involved, but by god this show was perfectly poised to provide a boot-licking pro-fascist narrative at just the right time for the W administration.
Even after living through three years of Trump, 2001-2008 was possibly the most surreal experience of my life in terms of how willing everyone was to submit to open fascism. I don’t know how I’m going to explain it to young people. 24 was an absolute garbage show designed to justify the torture of US detainees and everyone knew it, but no one ever thought of #cancelling Keith Sutherland. No one spoke out againt this shit. It should be a permanent stain on whatever network decided to air it, but instead the show won a fucking Emmy from those limousine liberals in the TV biz! afaik, no one involved has ever faced the slighted bit of blowback for producing this servile pro-torture agitprop.
Fast-forward to 2019 and people are like “It’s so odd Ellen and W are friends!” No it’s not.
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You could do an entire Ph.D. thesis on the interplay between the celebration of police fascism on the screen and real-world abuses. NYPD Blue isn’t even close to where it starts, I don’t think Dirty Harry is where it starts.
Clint’s son was rumored to be dating that gorgeous Cuban actress that was in Blade Runner 2049. So maybe that mitigates the on-screen sins of thy fasha
Chrissy Tiegen is engaged in some kind of Twitter war with Qanon, and I am here for it.
link to it
I want to interject some incoherent shit into the discussion
https://twitter.com/chrissyteigen/status/1186792419154481157
I think Chrissy is losing the battle, tbh.
That’s kind of what happened with Mr. Robot. His timing was pretty incredible for the rise of Trump, but it now seems really stupid in retrospect (take away the timing and it’s a nothing show).
I will dispute your characterization of Hollywood’s response to 24. Those people were relatively ostracized in Hollywood overall for their pro-torture views and were not looked at as good guys (their previous show was the USA Network version of La Femme Nikita, which maybe wrapped that year or the year before). They’re part of ‘conservative Hollywood’ which has a massive persecution complex. Most of the voters in the Academy are also not rich people or whatever your perception of them is, and the Academy has a laughable track record in deciding what the best stuff is in the industry. I never watched a single episode of 24, because I saw it for exactly what it was without needing to see a frame of it.
Here’s some pre-September 11 food for thought. There were two totally irresponsible terrorism movies that were made in the run up to that (a few years prior), so 24’s timing isn’t that fortuitous as this was something people were ‘sort of’ into at the time. One ends up being laughably stupid (The Siege, where internment camps happened over a bus bombing in NYC). The other is absolutely terrifying in retrospect, and would never be made today. That movie is Arlington Road. It was brilliant, realistic, and terrifying and sure to give anyone close to 9/11 serious PTSD. It should be required watching for QAnon followers to pull their heads out of their asses.
One Hollywood note about 9/11 so you can get an idea of something. I remember in the days after the attack driving on the 101. Nearly every single car had those little American flags on them. It creeped me out beyond belief. I am of the firm belief that if a terror attack changes even one aspect of daily life (people or bigger), it was successful. Look at how successful that ‘small’ attack that could never be repeated was in hindsight. It is truly terrifying.
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found it. 123enjoy is a pretty fantastic site for movies online
I haven’t seen it in nearly 20 years, so I have no idea how well it holds up in our times today. It was the first movie I thought of after 9/11.
Hollywood should just make a show as violent as 24 about combating domestic terrorism with white supremacists as the bad guys, designed to justify thinking that the alt-right is on the same level as Al-Qaeda. It doesn’t have to involve torture, but it should involve heroes who might operate outside the law and face moral quandaries because they are up against an existential threat, with tension because some characters are willing to go farther than others.
I actually don’t know how violent 24 is, since I never watched it. I watched Alias, though.
This will be the 3rd movie I will watch, courtesy of recommendation from my brothers and sisters her at Unstuck!
La Femme Nikita was a great show. The CW version Nikita wasn’t bad either.
lol I forgot about the magnetic flags and yellow ribbons on cars. Like immediately everyone had them, and all the politicians were expected to wear American flag lapel pins and now we play the national anthem at debates like it’s some kind of sportsball game. We may never recover from the jingoism; it’s only gonna take one 9/11-style attack to push us over the edge.
No offense, but the TV/movie entertainment industry is the enemy. The days when pop culture were the dominion of the left are long gone.This ain’t the summer of love.
Woah, not saying that The Siege is unproblematic but they built up to that reasonably well, there was a fake bus attack, then a real bus attack, then somebody blew up an opera, then Denzel stopped someone from blowing up a classroom, and finally somebody drove a truck and blew up the FBI HQ in the NYC killing 600 people? That’s when Bruce Willis comes in with the army and starts using harsh tactics, tortures some dude which Denzel was against, then Denzel has to basically uncover the last cell while dodging Willis and the army, ultimately finds the last bomber who kills Annette Bening. Denzel then goes to Willis and tells him to stand down, threatens to arrest him or arrests him. Ultimately an anti torture movie, an anti internment movie, rule of law movie.