EDM and/or electronic music

less words more block rocking beats

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That album is perfect.

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I’ll go ahead and say that I’ve been rocking Vegas and also Tweekend for many years. They sound great with a decent system and go well with flying down the freeway cranking it.

I’m not sure what to make of the Bieber/Sheeran thing, cause I don’t care for either, but whatevs…

Where do I find a young people version of this thread? I want to know what a today version of 25 years ago me is listening to right now.

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i’m on it

so far it seems like nobody knows, even the young people themselves

edIT just released a new album a few months ago, how new are we talking about here?

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Yeah this is super good. I’m only on track 5 but it’s already been a journey… These guys have definitely heard some Pink Floyd before. (Not that that’s the only thing going on here, just one of the things I’m hearing.)

“February of 2021? I said I was looking for the new sound.”

Lol spooky, I was literally about to post “Are edIT and The Glitch Mob household names or is my perspective warped? They did have a track in a Fast And Furious movie.”

So, are edIT and The Glitch Mob household names or is my perspective warped? They did have a track in a Fast And Furious movie.

It’s not just newness though, and probably impossible to answer. Many of the more recent tracks posted I like and 25-years-ago-but-today version me might like them too. Others, not so much.

In record label terms, my 90’s were Wax Trax → Astralwerks → Ninja Tune. Would there be a 2010’s equivalents to that, both as they relate to one another and how they all relate to the larger pop music scene? Would they even be electronic music?

I’m pretty sure I’d like Jaime xx a lot no matter what anachronistic timeline I’m imagining, while still stubbornly refusing to like The xx as a group.

There are a lot of different ways to make music. By play an instrument I mean to the degree you’d feel comfortable performing a piece or set live. And by perform I mean play the notes (which could be chords, or samples, or whatever) and not just press play on a deck and pretend-turn knobs. Like I’ve seen people play the shit out of launcher pads and stuff like that which would certainly count.

I think you’re completely wrong about this. I would love to hear pure electronic performed live. There are endless possibilities outside the boundaries of traditional live performance. The problem is that it’s still kind of early and no one’s really figure’d it out yet, at least not to a degree that they’re a popular touring act afaik. These MPE controllers are fairly new, for example. I think there are practical advantages too like the act can be 1-2 people instead of rolling out a 9-piece band with 4 guitarists you can’t hear in the mix and tons of heavy gear and roadies. Hard to make it as a musician in that setting with so many mouths to feed.

The thing about not being able to play a “proper” instrument though is that you’re missing out on a lot of the speaking the language part. How can you learn phrasing effectively if you don’t have an efficient interface to riff ideas on? It’s like speaking an abstract language so you need a lot of reps. That’s why I pay so much attention to the phrasing since that’s where a ton of the musicality is. If the lines don’t speak to me then it’s gong show. There isn’t much good phrasing in electronic and I think it’s because so many of the people are coming from a DJ background.

Ah gotcha, but this has me wondering if it’s possible to be objective about those relationships. Like, Astralwerks now has Deadmau5 and Porter Robinson and what not signed, and I think to myself that back in the day it wasn’t this mainstream popular bullshit, but then I think, they had Chemical Brothers and Fatboy Slim back then.

I feel like compilations aren’t really stressed anymore, that’s definitely one thing that’s changed.

Yeah, Astralwerks went from being an niche electronic music label to one that publishes all the hipster things at some point.

Just speculating here, but is it possible that the modern internet/web has made the record labels less important? There’s Bandcamp, Soundcloud, and probably others I don’t know about.

I feel like, especially this past year, I’ve heard a bunch of cool stuff (not only electronic music) on KEXP and the DJ is like, this 20-year old songwriter and producer made this in their bedroom, check out their Bandcamp at …

I dunno, just thinking out loud.

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Oh yeah, absolutely. Record stores too. That whole system of content filters got marginalized.

Nah I think we’re just misunderstanding each other and like most things it might just be semantics. What I mean is something like

and how when this happened

Two orchestral renditions have also been performed, and were included in the album’s reissue.

some people got mad (despite me saying I was hardcore, this isn’t the type of thing I get mad about) because they felt it made a mockery of the work. The entire point is that the tape is disintegrating and it can never be recreated, ever, and people felt like the consensus was the thing itself wasn’t legitimate until somebody did the parlor trick of “performing it live”.

I mean, I do totally agree with that, it just doesn’t make me mad. A better way of putting it might be if I said “if you can turn your stuff into a live show, then try adding something that can’t be performed live”. The disintegration loop example is obviously extreme but I worked with an artist where the song itself was straight up real instruments that could easily be performed, but with an added ambient noise, which doubled as the percussion, of two trains running. That is, you’re standing and there’s a train running on one side in one direction and a train running in the other direction on the other side. This was achieved by making an actual binaural recording standing next to a freight train, twice (there wasn’t really any way to give the sense that the trains are going in two different directions, save for when the first train passes before the second).

Now, there’s no way to replicate that live, even if we performed our concert in a freight yard. So it would be a band performing the regular guitars and cello and what not, and a tape being played of the trains. If you want to call that ‘performing live’ then that’s ok, I wouldn’t, and it would just be a semantic squibble.