Yeah, the context of the previous convo really lends me to lead in the other direction
Lol literally nobody got upset when HBO said ârated R for strong violence and adult languageâ in the 80s and 90s but put a similar thing on a book and itâs all Brave New 1984.
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Anyhow @NoMatterWho if you are saying that trigger warnings are slippery slope censorship or soft censorship that really hurts the argument. Trigger warnings are an alternative to censorship and really just a sensible and non-controversial practice. 99.99% of what people would have you believe a trigger warning is comes from fox news war-on-christmas-style fan fiction.
Like, say youâre a student and you have an hour in the study hall before your date tonight. Do you want to spend it doing your math homework or spend it reading about women and children getting raped in a war? Iâm a total freak so I might prefer making the date conversation about some fucked up shit I was just reading 30 minutes prior, but most people would want at least a heads-up.
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Lol I wasnât even gonna post the below. I had it typed and then decided to not even approach anything antagonistic but then you had to run your mouth.
Did you just take the affirmative side in the âWe should have a bunch of statues of slavers and confederate generals and shit but donât have any plaques saying they ruled and were totally awesomeâ proposal? A proposal that to my knowledge doesnât actually exist?
Thatâs the goddamn point of the analogy!
YOUâRE THE GODDAMN POINT OF THE ANALOGY!
im not angry u r angry
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Even if the edits were good, I donât think itâs fine to use the legal system to keep the originals out of print, unless maybe some kind of more specific hypothetical involving the actual creator, not his â â â â fucking heirs and certainly not a bunch of empty suits
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And that offends you
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What best describes your opinion on the Dahl edits?
- This is a bad idea but they should be allowed to do it.
- This is a bad idea and they should not be allowed to do it.
- This is not a bad idea.
- I donât know.
- I donât care.
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Cassette {observing a deeply weird situation}: That is a deeply weird situation, allow me to manufacture an analogous situation about confederate monuments out of thin air to show how deeply weird that is.
MrWookie {reading (?) Cassetteâs presentation}: It sounds like you manufactured a situation out of thin air, one so deeply weird that it doesnât exist in the realm of confederate monuments.
UNSTUCK POLITICS IF LOVING YOU IS WRONG I DONT WANT TO BE RIGHT
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Absolutely wild that you went to âremovingâ from a quoted post about simply not making the effort to keep shoving it in front of kids
Also, people donât think âkids are made uncomfortable by this so we should censor thisâ, they think âkids seem to learn from this that racism is not uncomfortable, so we should reconsider whether we want to use this book as a primary choice for light-hearted, lesson-free fare. If we use it at all, maybe we could consider it instead in a broader, teachable context, with a companion piece or two.â
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Tell the truth you put in more n-words right?
Cuz thatâs what I do. I even changed âhuckleâ in the title.
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Misses the point that statues arenât designed to fulfil the function of art but of commemoration. Of course removing them isnât censorship. The right place for them is in museums alongside other artefacts of Imperialism and the slave trade.
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You knocked out the âtell me youâve never had a collectivist thought without telling meâ and âtell me youâve never looked at and liked a painting without telling meâ challenges in one paragraph.
Here I thought rolling around on the floor like a tantruming toddler while shouting âTHE PC POLICE JUST DONâT WANT TO EVER BE MADE UNCOMFORTABLEâ was strictly a right wing reaction to people who think it might be a mistake to present bigoted things as comfortable fun to kids, without any context about how it can be not so fun or comfortable
Iâm still grunching a bit so Iâm not sure whoâs saying what, but I think Alex is saying itâs good to own slaves and treat them how you want as long as itâs legal. Iâm not entirely sure though, waiting to hear back.
Confession: I didnât know until today that Dahl books are actually childrenâs books. I mean, I read a few of them but I also read a bunch of fucked up shit I probably shouldnât have so early. Lol that mf William Wonka murders children! Sure, they were shitty, but every time I talk about murdering shitty children people look at me like I should be in jail, because itâs not something one discusses in polite society.
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There are a lot of good ways to teach children to be better. One of those, however, is not implying that if theyâre shitty because their parents made them shitty then deeply mentally ill candy man William Wonka will murder them.