I don’t pay attention to politics, I don’t watch TV or go on social media. I have no opinions of my own but I am easily swayed by lawyers in nice suits.
People are noting that some people might be identifiable at this level of detail.
Drawing to at least a 10% chance one of them gets attacked.
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Good point by Elie Honig. People confuse Fox News with local Fox affiliates so juror #1 is not necessarily a problem.
Do some of the dice math guys want to calculate what the odds of a MAGA juror on a 12 person jury given a 13% chance of getting a MAGA juror (ignoring all other aspects).
…because we are going to find out that she is lying and actually has very strong opinions against Trump?
She sounds like a slam dunk for conviction.
I think Elie may have missed the more concerning factor, which maybe he thinks is the guy confusing that he’s reading his Daily Email.
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This statement is a huge problem:
“President Trump speaks his mind and I’d rather that than someone who’s in office who you don’t know what they’re thinking."
1-0.87^12
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You’re starting with a false premise. Not all 2020 Trump voters are MAGA. Some don’t even support him at all after J6
One thing the NY case is showing is that prosecuting Trump can be done in finite time if you have a DA free from interference and an experienced judge who doesn’t mess around. Until recently, conventional wisdom was that it would take weeks to select a jury. Now it looks like jury selection could wrap up tomorrow.
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This has to be on of the most common things to say if you hate Trump but want to downplay it to get on the jury. My line at work or around my neighbor Trumpers is “I don’t really follow politics, but Trump is entertaining”
Why do they think it would take weeks for jury selection? This is a serious question.
On the story I’m working on, jury selection in the first trial took 8 weeks after a previously aborted 8 weeks during jury selection in a mistrial. That was individual voir dire, solely because it was a capital murder case with the defense lawyer droning on and on and on with his questions to prospective jurors. The publicity surrounding that case was much higher than this Trump case and it was in a much smaller city than NYC.
In the second and third full trials (for a different case), jury selection was 5 days for the second (at a changed venue in a much larger city that had little awareness of the case) and 9 days for the third. For the third trial, it was in the place where it had massive publicity, so it was much more difficult to get jurors who didn’t know anything about after it being in the press nearly every day for over 3 years. It was also for solicitation of capital murder, which is a much bigger deal than this obviously. In the civil trial that happened nearly 11 years after the original incident (a bit over 7 years after the last criminal trial), jury selection took 2 days. Almost everyone in the area still was highly aware of the case at that time.
It’s uncommon for jury selection to take longer than a week, even in capital murder trials, from my understanding, so I don’t at all get where they’re coming up with weeks long estimates for a hush money trial. I’d expect it to be a 2-3 day thing for jury selection in a trial like this and then another week to 10 days for the trial, if that. I can’t see there being 50 witnesses to this thing. Maybe the analysts are just so used to plea bargains that they have no idea how to predict time.
Never forget that a study showed watching Fox News (and MSNBC) makes you more ignorant than not watching any news at all.
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I find that highly unlikely. What you’re presupposing is that a person who doesn’t really know anything about Trump, or doesn’t think of themselves as political, or has no idea Trump is facing other criminal charges has somehow diabolically used a cloak like this to get on the trial because they really want to be on the jury to get Trump. That doesn’t compute for me.
That’s almost the exact language MAGA people use when describing why they like Trump. ‘He tells it like it is’ is basically what she said. So either she’s doing something super surreptitious to get on the jury to ‘get’ him (which won’t work), or she’s as advertised. Someone who knows who Trump is, thinks his shtick is funny, and likes that he says what he means while not following politics at all. My guess is she has a lot of conversations with friends who say, ‘why don’t you care about this?’. That she’s some super secret anti-Trumper sounds dubious to me.
Agreed. Then we just have to get @beetlejuice selected as a potential juror.
“Ok, so in this one, it seems we have the guy from The Mummy, and another guy is whispering into his ear about the location of a PapaJohns? I’m stumped. Anybody got any theories?”
“Your honor, we have no problem with that meme.”
“OK, yeah, sure, but I’m still trying to get it. Anyone?”
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Why won’t the judge give him 24 months or something like that?
She is a black female teacher living in NYC with a masters in education. How many of them are secret Trump supporters? She has already said her social network hates Trump.
This is from her profile:
The juror said that as a person of color she has friends who have strong opinions on Trump, but she personally is not a political person. She said she tries to avoid political conversations and doesn’t really care for the news.
Again, you’re seeming to say that she’s secretly trying to get on the jury to get Trump. I’m saying it’s much more likely she likes Trump even if she never voted for him based on her words. Everything she’s saying suggests it’s more likely she would go in favoring him in the trial, specifically because she’s not against him based on her words and knowledge of him and his other cases. I think you should take her words at face value. She’s an extremely dangerous juror based on what she said in her profile. I’m sure the defense was gleeful to have her.
This is a horrible pick. Wtf?