The White Gay House
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Just desserts
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People familiar with the Trump legal teamās efforts to locate documents describe a confusing chain of events that delayed discovery of the box, including having its contents uploaded to the cloud, emailed to a Trump employee, and moved to an offsite location before finally ending up back at a Mar-a-Lago bridal suite that is now Trumpās office ā the very place that the FBI had searched just weeks earlier.
If thereās no indictment in NY or Fulton county by 9/6/2023, it aināt happening. Ditto for a federal indictment by 2/22/24 imo. I think weāll see something pretty soon. And if we get into (and definitely past) June, Iāll be very nervous. If I lose my first bet with Grue, Iāll probably become of the same mindset as Melkerson and TheHip and also start believing the man is invincible
I think this would be a much more fair bet! Itās also one that Iām not ready to make just yet. I really donāt like to gamble but feel that these indictment bets are like printing money tbh
No idea what theyād do in that circumstance, but an extradition request would put Desantis in a really tough spot as heād be sure to lose votes. He probably doesnāt do it imo. Melkerson and grue may be right that Trumpās best play would be to ignore any indictment coming from a state. Jesus these are fucked up times weāre living in
lol no. Anyone pissed at him for not extraditing orange man wouldnāt be voting for him anyway. The only way he would lose votes is by extraditing him.
If anything he might gain votes for ignoring those woke, blue state liberals.
Thatās what I meant. Heād lose votes by extraditing him, so he probably doesnāt do it
I was confused by the ātough spotā part. Itās not tough at all. He has no incentive to facilitate extradition. Not extraditing is the easiest decision ever.
Not extraditing Trump for a valid indictment loses the votes of whatever never-Trumpers would vote for Romney or Cheney. Whether he has a net gain from gaining votes elsewhere can be debated.
See NotBruceZās post. Not everyone is a MAGA chud. If Desantis wants any shot at the presidency, he has to appeal to more than just Trumpās base. I stand by my assessment that heād be put in a tough spot
Again, I think you guys are ascribing powers to Trump that he no longer has or used to enjoy under the vast protections of the presidency. Aside from his dwindling base and the few politicians he has kompromat on, the guy is washed up
No one is indicting Trump during an election year, wtf are we talking about.
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So lets be that guy: Fani Willis, the georgia DA and POC lady has exactly what to gain by indicting DJT? Iāll tell you what she has to lose: everything. She will be in virtual Salman Rushdie mode for the rest of her life/time in USA #1, her life and family in danger every time she steps in public. Fox and Newsmax will go absolutely apeshit, putting her picture everywhere. Why in the world would she sign up for that? For what? I wouldnāt.
The time for indictments was the week before he did what we all knew was coming, announcing his run. It didnāt happen. Its over. Its been 2 years.
Iāll let both of you buy out for $50 - this offer expires on 6/1, LMK.
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They had the last two years. Also no indictments.
Itās her fucking job!
Fox has already dumped Trump. To the extent that theyāre still downplaying J6 as some peaceful demonstration, itās for the benefit of all the āexistingā traitors still in congress, not to protect Trump
I had to heart your post for this:
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Do you seriously make no allowances for:
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Our judicial system moves agonizingly slow even under normal circumstances
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It takes time to work your way up the food chain
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They had to deal with many well financed, legally armed, hostile witnesses and non compliers
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We are talking about a former POTUS. Something that has never been done before in the history of the country. There can be no mistakes. No successful appeals. Theyāve got one shot and cannot miss
J6 and the attempted overthrow of an election and government had many moving parts and involved many different people. These are unprecedented crimes. It makes sense to me that itās going to move slower than any of us would like. I guess not to you tho
I donāt know why Iām even bothering, but Iāll jump in. There is no new evidence to be learned about Jan 6th. Everything there is to know about what happened that day is part of the public record. There is 0% chance that there is some crack team of lawyers working to build an airtight case. The DOJ is simply prattling about hoping something happens that makes their chances of a successful prosecution more likely. Itās not going to happen. About 1/3rd of the country will believe anything that comes out of Trumpās mouth. You simply canāt successfully prosecute a guy in that environment. They know it, and are just putting up a faƧade of doing something in the hopes that the problem eventually fixes itself (i.e. he dies, people stop caring, etc.).
Maybe thereās some small chance one of the more ambitious state or district prosecutors says fuck it and fires an indictment. Thatās cool and all, but like itās been said here, an indictment with zero consequences is functionally the same as no indictment. Best case scenario is the ensuing trial results in the reveal of politically damning testimony, but I think weāve hit the point of diminishing returns when it comes to the damage that can be done to Trumpās reputation by whatās effectively oppo research at that point. Any damage to Trumpās rep will either be due to self inflicted wounds or an attack from other GOP hopefuls during the primary.
Some people are willing to act out of principle. Otherwise, itās be dumb to expect politicians to act out of anything other than personal self-interest.
Used campaign funds to hush money a porn star. What. 6 7 8 years ago. Where is that one at
Matt G. We have text messages and Venmo evidence trail AND a cooperating witness. How did that go?
These people are untouchable
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Knowing what happened and being able to legally prove it to within reasonable doubt standards are two totally different things. How can anyone not know that?
So the subpoenas for Pence, Kushner, Ivanka and his lawyer, along with the attempt to quash attorney/client privileges were all for what then?
This just isnāt true. 1/3 of Republicans maybe and I doubt thatās even true. Regardless time will tell
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