I dont think anything important should be held by someone who isn’t completely boring and uncontroversial, of which we have many.
I may be misremembering, but I also thought mods cited the ownership thing as a reason for not taking greater moderation action against Simp when he was on a particularly bad posting spree.
Whatever the modding policy is, and I’ve made my position clear on that, it should apply to everyone, and anything which makes that difficult should be changed
I can understand your thinking but have you taken into account that simp isn’t receiving any benefit from owning the domain? (At least none that I’m aware of, if that isn’t the case it should probably be added to the discussion.)
I don’t care for Simp’s views on the transgendered, but don’t think that should disqualify him from participation in the forum.
And to be clear in this, LFS didn’t say Simp shouldn’t be able to participate and he explicitly said he wouldn’t do anything to stop him from participating.
I don’t know what you mean. In this case the only level of participation denied would be owning the domain. (as far as LFS’ proposal is concerned - the modding decision is completely separate)
Apologies if I’m not being clear. I mean someone is a member of our community or they are not. Once that distinction is made I don’t need any other distinctions being made about what posters can do what. The exceptions I’m alright with to that are new posters having a shakedown period before they have full access to the site and mods having additional authority. Although the current nonsense with RiskyFlush banning Simp makes it hard to justify that. Is there a plugin that would require n mods to agree to any actions so we could avoid Cpt. Queeg situations like this in the future?
Well I’m not sure what happens now with him banned. I hope he doesn’t nuke the site. If anybody is connected to him and he’s still willing to consider an amicable transfer please put us together.
So you think it’s more fair that he just leave without telling you why he’s leaving?
Basically, you aren’t able to understand why it hurts him to contribute to something simp owns, so you go with a really ridiculous assumption that he’s just using some leverage, in this case the threat of leaving
Why would you consider yourself a friend when you assign bad motives before attempting to understand
he “owns” the site in a way that he’s not making money off of it. not even not profiting, he was going out of pocket for the community. he’s not ceo of raytheon but look look look, you guys are thinking i’m spoiling for a fight i’m trying to make sure everybody votes in a way that LFS stays because i enjoy his posts here
I voted transfer it to @LFS but not because I had a big problem with simp owning it. It seems most people are cool with LFS, so why not. But AFAIK Simp never abused his site ownership (e.g. he never tried to throw his weight around when in the trans fights).
So transfer it, sure, why not. However I am not sure I’m in favor of banning Simp over this. Yes I think he’s wrong on the issue, but I am generally not in favor of banning people who are wrong, even obnoxiously or idiotically wrong. Hatefully wrong… well, maybe. But see * below.
I do admit I didn’t follow the Simp-caused fights very carefully. I got the impression there was s Simp trans containment thread. What was wrong with having that thread? Was the issue that he was supposed to keep it contained there but he spouted trans stuff in other threads? If so then maybe a ban is more reasonable, although I’m still not 100% sold on it. Did he agree to the containment and then didn’t stick to it? Or did he never agree to it?
*Anyway I think a lot of people, even a fair # of Dem voters, have views similar to his. We have to learn how to deal with these people one way or the other. IMO