Discussion of domain ownership transfer

About Unstuck
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Hello all, it is my intention to work toward transferring ownership of the Unstuck domain away from @simplicitus. My reasons can be found primarily in this thread: Would ceding ground on civil rights result in endless bickering?

It might be impossible to avoid debating the specific issue at hand in this thread, but I’d love to try to keep that in the other thread and focus here on

  1. Any issues/problems related to domain ownership transfer
  2. The process via which this decision could/should be made

Simp indicated he would consider voluntarily transferring ownership “based on an anonymous user poll over like 5 days” which seems like a reasonable ask. Obviously “considering” is not exactly acceptance, so we could end up going through this process only for him to decide not to go through with it. But I think the ideal scenario is a peaceful transfer if possible.

Please let me know any thoughts you have on the matter. Thank you.

Would ceding ground on civil rights result in endless bickering itt?
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I am going to stay out of this discussion as my view is well documented. I don’t think simp belongs here. He use to be a solid poster but his hatred of trans people has broken his brain. He almost only posts hate speech now.

I think we need an owner account that is not held by any one person but all admins have access. The domain owner needs to transfer every year to a new member so no one person feels like the “owner”.

I’ll leave the rest of the discussion to others.

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There’s no way people are going to get together to make any kind of collective ownership (a non-profit or LLC or something like that). The only hope would be someone volunteering to own it and that person being acceptable to most people and to simp.

LFS, you’re one of very few people who would fit that bill.

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Spidercrab is the only admin and I would bet your net worth that he doesn’t want to own the domain too.

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Is there a technical reason the domain owner can’t change at some set frequency?

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There’s no technical reason, but transferring ownership of a domain with a registrar is not as easy as clicking a button.

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Why not selling to a hedgefonds and make bank?

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That would be fine with me. FWIW I would view myself as simply a representative of the membership of the site.

Is there a reason somebody would NOT want to be the domain “owner”? If the reason is that the person would be easily connected to this site and thus designated an enemy of the state because of its content, I can live with that. Given other things I’ve posted under my real name I’m quite sure that ship has sailed.

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Cite or ban

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I think fear of legal repercussions would be a top reason. Also what time and responsibility it entails (not much). Also, at some point, some people are going to blame you for stuff being posted that you tolerate.

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Really it should maybe rotate among non-Americans until Trump is gone to protect the Americans.

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Yeah, and mods should rotate. And rotating mods is a lot easier than rotating domain owner.

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I am no expert but it looks to me like changing domain owner is normally free and just a form to be filled in on most registries, no?

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It’s not like it’s hard, but it’s not just an admin button. The new owner probably needs to make an account and navigate a new site and deal with things they are probably completely unfamiliar with.

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Regardless, it will be a miracle if this site can choose and accept one new owner let alone rotation.

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We all choose @LFS case closed.

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LFS had the first word, but I would frame it as the issue that has arisen is that I believe support for “trans rights,” and particularly allowing people to participate in sports based on their gender identity instead of biological sex, is a corrosive political view whose embrace (or lack of challenge) by the democratic left has been harmful to the electoral prospects of the democratic party.

I have also argued that trans rights supporters typically try to bully people and silence dissent from the position that gender is, by definition, a function of self-identity, and it is wrong to challenge self-identity or accommodations related to it (such as placement of trans-identified convicts in women’s prison).

Now, the issue is that certain posters on this site believe such views, though supported by between 65-75% of the population (depending on the poll), are a form of “hate speech” and should not be subject to debate. I think this is simply another way to silence dissent in an effort to manifest a false consensus where non exists.

In any event, I am the domain name registrant for unstuckpolitics.com and have paid for its renewals, etc. (because someone had to do it). I have sought to use this “power” to ensure that he site was kept online and so no one could threaten the continued viability of the site.

LFS has suggested that I should not maintain registration of the site if I am going to continue to be “hateful” towards trans rights. So, I suggested to him that I would transfer the site if an anonymous poll agreed that I should no longer hold the domain. This is that poll.

Should Simplicitus retain or transfer ownership of the unstuckpolitics.com domain name? [this poll is anonymous]
  • Retain
  • Transfer
0 voters

If it transfer wins I would transfer the domain name to either LFS or Suzzer, because I trust them to maintain confidentiality and not abuse the position. What they do with the name would be up to them, assuming they at least agreed to continue paying $15 or whatever for yearly renewals. I am also fine with maintaining the registration and continuing to pay for renewals as I have in the past.

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About Moderation (pvn is a trusted member of the community and will not put dirty fucking words in the thread titles)
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honestly what’s the difference what the “owner” of this site thinks? it’s not 2+2, simp isn’t mason pulling strings and using his position to make demands of mods or other posters. if simp has his name on some paperwork or you do or i do, whatever, we’re not masons here. i think it’s a service to the community and he deserves a thank you.

if he was abusing his role and using admin powers to whatever, change peoples’ posts to anti trans stuff then sure it would be appropriate to remove him. this to me looks like step 1 in a plan to ban him for presenting extremely mainstream american views on one topic. we’re a political forum and our best plan is to ban everyone who doesn’t already 100% agree with us, from discussing politics with us? further self-isolation into echo chambers? that’s the wrong direction, you guys know that’s the wrong path to go down

now, i don’t want to lose anybody. if there was some ultimatum threatening another schism then i’d ask simp to transfer ownership just because who cares, it is a position which offers no benefits and can only lead to negative consequences like getting black bagged and interrogated like in one battle after another (2025). i wouldn’t volunteer. you’d have to be fuckin nuts in trump 2.0 anything could happen. and clovis thinking making the owner a foreigner is less dangerous? two words: drone strike two more words: terrorist leader. you want your name on that paper? okay. if it were me i’d want the guy i DON’T like’s name listed in whatever database

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You’ll have to kill me and then move my mouth and stimulate my vocal cords in such a manner that it sounds like thank you, before you ever hear me thank that idiot for anything

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Just hire a law firm and get the domain held in trust. Use some of beetle juice’s millions

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