Democratic Primary Debates

Fwiw there have been tons of articles about how the dem establishment has warmed to Warren. You absolutely can’t group her with Bernie in a “Dems would rather have Trump than them” conspiracy theory.

That’s the point

When my choices for president are

An old white rich republican

Or

Donald trump

I’m good

Yeah but there are Republicans and then there are Republicans…

If that’s the case then I guess they know something about her that I don’t. Which, absent further info would swing my vote in favor of Bernie over Warren.

ETA: it’s not really a conspiracy because they’re not conspiring to do anything. They’re just pushing their preferred candidate. My point is that staying home in protest wouldn’t make them stop pushing their GOP-lite candidate in 2024, even if they figured the candidate to be an underdog. They have less to lose than they like us to believe.

If Bernie gets the nom, the Dem party will pretend to be rooting for him but IMO there will be many secretly rooting for Trump. I realize that’s “hot take” territory but so be it, I hope they start proving me wrong.

Mike Pence promised that the ICE money would have oversight, does he look like a lying beady-eyed weasel to you?

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Somebody on the old site, I think it might have been goofyballer, went off on her, calling her a shill, after she made some posts about Pete. I thought it was over the top and uncalled for, and I’m glad she’s come back. Hopefully things will go differently here.

I like Mayor Pete, but probably he should be running for statewide office. I think de Blasio is the only Democratic candidate where I’m like “fuck that guy.”

Indiana tho

OK, Tulsi and her Russia apologetics pisses me off. F that.

It was, and it was

From last month:

Lol, were you really expecting anything else from her?

The difference between Bernie and Elizabeth to the Democratic Party is big and it’s that she’s a party member and he isn’t.

Yea tbh I would love to see the party establishment back Warren. Mostly because it would mean they aren’t all in for fucking Biden.

#KamalaHarrisDestroyed currently trending with like 85k tweets

Man, it wasn’t that long ago when people were telling me the “Pocahontas!” thing meant Warren’s campaign was over and done.

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I’m afraid the only path for Warren is for Bernie to drop out relatively early and endorse her (let’s say he loses Iowa and NH); then she has some time to pick off the Booker/Castro/O’Rourke/Pete crowd. But Bernie is still polling better than Warren, and if say she wins Iowa and he wins NH, he’s going stay til the end. Then you really need a Biden crash + no Harris surge, in that scenario maybe there is a plurality for either of them, but the bets are coming in against that.

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iirc the argument was that her handling of it did not bode well for a future match up against Trump, since his entire campaign is just going to be based around trolling his opponent.

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If Bernie beats Elizabeth in NH and IA she should drop out and endorse and vice versa.

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Based on the ledes everywhere, Biden’s not their chosen one. They’re trying to get away from him fast.