Democratic Primary Debates

I was expecting garbage takes from the NYT today, but “Atlanta isn’t actually the Deep South” is some next-level shit. It’s changing my whole conception of what a hot take can be.

Who wrote it? How is it possible that ‘Deep South’ is not just a description of location rather than what a place is like? It’s like ‘Deep South’ and ‘Midwest’ are codes for racist af, and not, you know, location descriptions.

Growing up in Texas, the joke was ‘Houston isn’t Texas’, which was perceived as a negative for Bush 1.

How do you even lose if it’s a draw? What fuckery is this?

Looks like the tweet was deleted, but i posted it in the LC thread.

Joe Biden Won Last Night’s Democratic Debate
The real victor in the moderates-versus-progressives battle was the moderate who wasn’t there.

Marianne Williamson won last night’s debate if you judge exclusively in terms of charisma, rhetoric and the effective use of television.

Some more great opinion garbage from Douthat.

We need a LOL NYT thread.

Anyone thinking Marianne is a good representative of the Democratic Party is not a Democrat.

There’s a laugh at media outlet threads, but it’s not on the front page.

so does the polling where beto leads trump by 12 points in texas push him to the front runner for VP considerations? or is it not worth trying to keep texas in play just yet. (by 2024 texas will probably be purple, imo.)

By ‘24 Texas will have had two more cycles to perfect the art of cheating and vote suppression with assists from Russia and Saudi Arabia. That state is perma red.

What’s interesting about that poll (PDF here) is that Trump isn’t actually doing worse against Beto than any one else (see pages 5 and 6).

Trump is between 37.3% and 38.6% in all of the head-to-head matchups. Beto just has a lot fewer of the Neither/Not Sure crowd. I’m not exactly sure what this means practically.

I do find it very hard to believe that both names on the ticket will be white guys.

This. Anyone who thinks Texas would ever be blue even if the demographics were 95% non-white is fooling themselves.

Nah. I think Texas is purple most likely in 2020 (meaning either a Senator or Pres candidate will win as blue), or slight red which means it’s in play on the national politics stage (still not locally) with a very unpopular president. I think by 2024 it will be no worse than hard purple. By 2028, I’m confident it will be trending blue or be blue.

If you’re looking a state to compare it to, look to Nevada.

Beto should be running for Cornyn’s seat. He’s done an excellent job of showing the people of Texas that he’s not that ‘socialist’ the right wingers thought he was, which could translate to several points for him. I think his chances significantly improve for a Senate bid after running for prez, and Cornyn is a bit more popular than Ted Cruz.

I doubt anyone other than Warren would have any interest in putting him on the ticket. And why would she, when Castro is right there and much better for her to take from Texas? Maybe Harris would take him, but I doubt it. I think she takes Mayor Pete.

It’s astonishing how many of these candidates are tied with Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson on Predictit.

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LMFAO Bernie broke this guy completely:

https://twitter.com/timryan/status/1156610596579753984?s=21

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So the eyebags are from endless crying…

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You think the GOP is just going to accept losing Texas? Lol

https://twitter.com/redrawnoxen/status/1156635704690204673?s=20

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Well, I grew up there, and while there are certainly a lot of voter suppression efforts there, there are plenty of efforts to stop that going on too. Demographics and demographic shifts in Texas are very very unfavorable to the GOP being in charge there in the next 10 years and even their Tea Party idiot governor knows that. To hammer this point home, Ohio is way more red than Texas, and some people here want to try to get the Dems to win in Ohio. That was the only state that went more red in the Blue Wave of 2018.

The last time a Democrat was elected in a statewide office in Texas was 1990 (I voted for that person). Beto got within a couple of points of winning there. A lot of people act like that means nothing, but it doesn’t.

A lot of people from blue states are moving to Texas (especially from Calilfornia, due to no taxes and having a long dollar from selling their CA houses) They’ll have to get used to that, and they will. Because it’s Texas, a very complicated state. No matter what you think, Texas is not Georgia or any other place that does truly out in the open cheating/suppression without any serious pushback.