Democratic Primary Debates

ahahahahaha CNN is rawdog centrist AIDS for moderate Boomers.

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1184310135289798656

2 Likes

https://twitter.com/JohnAllenPaulos/status/1184284909994684417

1 Like

Man, the post-debate debate is where the real action is at.

nunnehi +600
smrk -200
zikzak -1,100

Two heads is unlikely, once you get heads the first time youā€™re due for some regression to the mean and tails becomes more likely for the second flip. So itā€™s hard to know but Iā€™d say 50/50.

1 Like

OK I finished and Pete is much better when heā€™s just talking policy than when heā€™s trying to take others down. I suppose that would be true of any of them, except Tulsi, who is annoying in any context.

Biden tho

sky can probably weigh in, but Iā€™m guessing Peteā€™s pretty uncomfortable attacking others. Itā€™s not his lane, and him going on the attack does not help him when heā€™s supposed to be the uplifting candidate in the race.

My friends and I were playing a movie trivia game where you have to help a teammate guess the movie without saying the title. You can play it on your phone. Itā€™s fun. So my friend says, ā€œThat movie at the Oscars that nobody saw.ā€

I still havenā€™t seen La La Land.

I also still havenā€™t seen Training Day, though, but I feel like I have.

Roma?

Icwydt

That could describe practically half of the BP category in the mid to late 90s. The year Moonlight won, most of the movies didnā€™t make big money (Hidden Figures and La La Land did, and Arrival did well), but all were quite profitable. It was a very weak year overall quality wise and I think half the movies wouldnā€™t have gotten in in a stronger year (I had no interest in Hacksaw Ridge and didnā€™t get to see Fences though I tried but got too busy).

The person I worked with on all the movies that were nominated and I had conversations about it in the run up to the nominee time. I knew Moonlight was a lock. I worked on La La Land later (not during the pre-release, but before it was nominated), and it was obviously getting nominated. The third one I thought was not going to get it, and I thought the fourth one was on the cusp but on the wrong side of it.

I didnā€™t think much of La La Land until I saw its budget. Then I thought it was a much better movie, because they did a lot on that budget. Looking at that year of the Oscars, I think La La Land was my fifth favorite movie in that year, and I was legit pissed when I heard the words ā€˜La La Landā€™. It was just stunning for that to end up being wrong. I went from huge hate for the Academy to elation very quickly. Weird weird situation.

1 Like

I think Pete is one of those quiet-angry people, and of course those are the scariest.

The Beto thing might need some context. Beto basically implied that he had no courage because he doesnā€™t agree with pushing mandatory buybacksā€¦this all happened in tweets/interviews over the last couple of weeks. Thatā€™s where the ā€œcourageā€ line came from. Iā€™m not sure how that played to people who arenā€™t as tuned in as I am. I thought it was great because he shut Beto down (you could see it in Betoā€™s reaction, too)

Also, slam dunk on the Syria stuff against Tulsi. I think Trumpā€™s actions there really truly angered Pete, and you could see it, and good on him for saying she was basically supporting Trumpā€™s ā€œpolicyā€ there. The camera cut back to her at the end of his time and she was looking down and away from Pete. She knew he won that exchange.

As for Warren, From what Iā€™ve seen of them both over the past couple of weeks, I feel like Pete is actually kind of disappointed in her for not being more clear on the M4A stuff. He repeatedly acknowledges that she is running on having a plan, and she has plans for everything, etc. Iā€™ll give Bernie credit, heā€™s not afraid to come out and answer that question.

Whatever they put in his water tonight worked, though. Youā€™re all feeling upset because he targeted Warren, and I get it. Policies aside, Iā€™m not a huge Beto fan after the shit heā€™s been saying about Pete over the past few weeks. But as for the general electorate, the consensus is he stood out tonight, and was a clear winner, and that it was by far his best debate.

All that being said, I find this format tiresome and much prefer the tons of long format town halls theyā€™ve been doing that donā€™t get any attention. Did you know there was a labor/worker rights town hall a few days ago sponsored by the UFCW in Iowa? Pretty much all of them were there, as well. No press coverage, which is shit because we learn so much more about the candidates this way.

Also, this is goddamned funny:

That makes more sense. Thanks for the context.

https://twitter.com/bill_maxwell_/status/1184309414368403456?s=21

2 Likes

I did not know that and I thought that was a a weird line to take when watching the debate. Now I understand what was going on there.

I was confused about the mayo pete/beto showdown last night in the moment and now Iā€™m mad. Peteā€™s beef here is that Betoā€™s plan isnā€™t 100% complete and/or waterproof? Is that right? Like, where the fuck is HIS perfectly formed plan???

Just watched some dipshit on CNN hammer beto with innane ā€œmass shooters arenā€™t going to give up their gunsā€ baloney as if 1) every future mass shooter already has a gun or 2) people who have guns now are currently planning on being shooters in the future.

like, if betoā€™s plan doesnā€™t stop 100% of mass shootings itā€™s a failure. Nobody seems to have the same standards when it comes to, eg. drunk driving. This should be an easy counterpoint and beto just whiffed on it.

4 Likes

This actually did get robbed for BP. LOL Green Book.

1 Like

Ironically, if he had actually taken more ā€œkamikaze runsā€ on issues outside of guns and race relations, heā€™d be doing much better than he is now.

I didnā€™t catch all of it, but much of it. My personal thoughts which are worth nothingā€¦

  • Gabbard sucked for reasons brought up to me ITT earlier
  • I thought Mayor Pete came off a little better than Beto
  • Yang certainly did nothing to hurt himself and is my #3
  • I thought Sanders did very well although I wish heā€™d find another word for capitalism, since most Americans are for it
  • I thought Warren was the winner if for no other reason than how many times can your opponents say, I agree with with Warren and as usual Warren is right, etc.?
  • The rest. Who the fuck cares?

So for me right now, itā€™s Sanders, Warren, Yang in that order. I still say Warren needs to answer for signing off on Trumpā€™s military budget and needs to get more specific on her plans before I can really believe sheā€™ll fight corporate greed as hard as Sanders surely will. Yang is just pragmatic, answers questions directly, and has some very good ideas

I also thought the questions were god awful. CNN sucks. And they talked about Trump too much. Perhaps I missed it, but where were the questions about kids in cages?

1 Like

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1184294289968369669

I donā€™t think Beto wants to bring up drunk driving in any context.

2 Likes